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UK Muslims 'outraged' when asked to condemn terror
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 22, 2003 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 11/22/2003 4:32:27 PM PST by joesnuffy

UK Muslims 'outraged' when asked to condemn terror British leader called 'ridiculous' for urging 'clearer, stronger language'

Posted: November 22, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

A British official has raised the ire of his country's Muslims after urging them to follow the "British way" of political dialogue and reject Islamist terrorism.

Denis MacShane, Britian's minister for Europe, was speaking to his Rotherham, UK, constituency after the bombings in Istanbul when he likened the terrorists to Nazis and urged British Muslim leaders to use "clearer, stronger language" to speak out against them, the Guardian of London reported.

The paper said, however, UK Muslims across a wide spectrum regarded the remarks as "outrageous" and "disgraceful."

"It is time for the elected and community leaders of British Muslims to make a choice: it is the British way – based on political dialogue and non-violent protests – or it is the way of the terrorists against which the whole democratic world is now uniting," MacShane said, according to the London paper.

"I hope we will see clearer, stronger language that there is no future for any Muslim cause anywhere in the world that validates, or implicitly supports, the use of political violence in any way."

Democracy, he continued, "has no place for terrorism and – like Nazism and other forms of tyranny – it must be defeated by the common will and determination of all who live under rule of law and in democratic freedom."

In response to MacShane's remarks, angry Muslim groups across the country maintained terrorism always has been condemned by law-abiding citizens.

"We do not need lectures from a representative of a government that has conducted an unlawful war against Iraq," said Inayat Bunglawala, a spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain, according to the Guardian. "The Muslim community has consistently condemned terrorism, and we condemn this latest attack on the British consulate and HSBC in Turkey.

"Our sympathies go out to the relatives of the Turkish and British families," he said. "The attacks only emphasize that the disastrous war in Iraq has not reduced the risk of terrorism, as our own governments had us believe beforehand, but has exacerbated it."

Bunglawala said if MacShane "is serious about wanting to reduce the war on terrorism, he and his government should look again at reducing the causes of terrorism."

"It is about time the government recognizes that the war on terrorism is failing, just as the anti-war movement warned them on Iraq," he said, the Guardian reported.

Anas Altikriti, director of communications for the Muslim Association of Britain, called the remarks "an outrage and extremely disgraceful" and "no way" to address the 2.5 million law-abiding Muslims in Britain.

Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, insisted the "majority of Muslims have consistently condemned violence against any individual no matter what the source," according to the London daily.

He said MacShane's call for "clearer, stronger language" is "ridiculous."

"What does he want us to do? Apologize so much as to give an indication that somehow we are all responsible when we are not?" he asked, according to the paper. "If attacks are carried out by Muslims we condemn it, if it comes from non-Muslims we condemn it. I just wish some people in government would take a similar view."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; angrymuslims; british; condemnationofterror; islamichumanrights; islamicterrorism; istanbulbombings; macshane; muslimassociation; muslimcouncilbritain; uk; ukmuslims
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1 posted on 11/22/2003 4:32:31 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
reducing the causes of terrorism.

The Cause of terrorism is a religious sect out of control...with visions of global domination in their dreams!

2 posted on 11/22/2003 4:37:27 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: joesnuffy
. . . government should look again at reducing the causes of terrorism . . .

Yeah, like reducing the number of non-muslims in the world!

Religion of peace, my butt.

3 posted on 11/22/2003 4:40:01 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: joesnuffy
All Arab Muslims living in the U.S. and U.K. should be required to sign a loyalty oath disavowing terrorism and any form of subversion. If they do not sign -- deport them with 72 hours absent very strong good cause shown.
4 posted on 11/22/2003 4:40:41 PM PST by ex-Texan (CBS [SeeBS] Deserves a Long Double Flush . . . Pull the Chain!)
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To: joesnuffy
"UK Muslims 'outraged' when asked to condemn terror"

I'm beginning to feel like the proverbial broken record, but I'll say it one more time. Anyone who believes that there are "peaceful mainstream Muslims" out there will be stunned at how quickly the "peaceful mainstream Muslims" get on board with the radicals when and if the Muslims gain a political plurality in this country.

The short version of this statement. Do not be deluded and when our President, whom I otherwise admire, says things like "Islam is one of the world's great religions," simply ignore him. He is either naive concerning this religion or simply feels that he has to say things like this because of political considerations.

5 posted on 11/22/2003 4:42:36 PM PST by davisfh
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To: joesnuffy
Why does any civilized country allow these sick puds into their country?

And why are they not being deported back to their beloved camel-humping country of origin asap?

Why is western civilization putting up with their $hit?
6 posted on 11/22/2003 4:45:28 PM PST by lodwick (Wake up, America!)
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To: ex-Texan
All Arab Muslims living in the U.S. and U.K. should be required to sign a loyalty oath disavowing terrorism and any form of subversion. If they do not sign -- deport them with 72 hours absent very strong good cause shown.

I think that's a very good idea.

7 posted on 11/22/2003 4:51:27 PM PST by Do Be
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To: joesnuffy
I've got a newsflash for Denis. The Muslims will not only not speak out against terrorism. When they feel emboldened enough, they will rise up and join them.
8 posted on 11/22/2003 4:51:30 PM PST by paul51
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To: LiteKeeper
And their statement implies that terrorism is justified, if we will just try to "understand" to causes. These UK Muslims sound an awful lot like our lib/dems here in the US. Or perhaps it's the other way around....
9 posted on 11/22/2003 5:00:49 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
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10 posted on 11/22/2003 5:02:05 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: paul51
And there's 1.3 billion of these miscreants?
11 posted on 11/22/2003 5:03:49 PM PST by txhurl (That is just way too many.)
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To: joesnuffy
UK Muslims 'outraged' when asked to condemn terror British leader called 'ridiculous' for urging 'clearer, stronger language'

Fuel for the fire.

12 posted on 11/22/2003 5:04:53 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: lodwick
"Why is western civilization putting up with their $hit?"

Because our poor civ has been undermined for at least 50, and maybe close to 100 years by communists, atheists, homosexuals and other haters.

No I am not being sarcastic. Yes, I really believe this.

We ARE in a war for our very civilization, unfortunately the Islamic terrorists are not our only enemies. It is actually a two-front war. The Islamics on one side, the left wing cultural warriors on the other. How funny for the left that is is only us, on the right, that will protect them from the torture and annihilation that will most definately be their fate should the Islamofacists prevail.
13 posted on 11/22/2003 5:06:02 PM PST by jocon307 (Ack! and Double Ack!!)
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To: anniegetyourgun
if we will just try to "understand" to causes.

Can't we all just get along?...Grrr..

14 posted on 11/22/2003 5:07:14 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: anniegetyourgun
If the Uk. muslims (and the ones in this country for that matter) are "consistantly condeming violence no matter what the source".
Where is it? I don't see it.
Where are the full page newspaper ads?
Where are the Imams denouncing this?

Sorry, all we get is feigned outrage, doesn't work for me.
15 posted on 11/22/2003 5:08:33 PM PST by tet68
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To: LiteKeeper
The Cause of terrorism is a religious sect out of control...with visions of global domination in their dreams!

And, their enablers who would rather look the other way. It's much easier, and desirable, for them to make Christians out to be the biggest threat in the world.

16 posted on 11/22/2003 5:10:26 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: joesnuffy

Beware the Trojan Horse of Moderate Islam

17 posted on 11/22/2003 5:15:43 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY (((Live Free or Die!!)))
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To: joesnuffy
Anas Altikriti, director of communications for the Muslim Association of Britain...

Anyone else catch this? This should be writted Al-Tikriti, which states where the person's "tribe" is from. As in Saddam Hussien Al-Tikriti. Gee, a radical muslim from Saddam's hometown is outraged at Britain. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

18 posted on 11/22/2003 5:20:22 PM PST by Desecrated (A nickel of every tax dollar should go toward the defense of America)
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To: lodwick
Why does any civilized country allow these sick puds into their country? And why are they not being deported back to their beloved camel-humping country of origin asap? Why is western civilization putting up with their $hit?

Just be patient and KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY.
The open season on all of'em is at hand.

19 posted on 11/22/2003 5:23:45 PM PST by Anticommie
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To: joesnuffy
It's posts like this one that make me want to fire up Command & Conquer Generals and stomp some terrorist ass.
20 posted on 11/22/2003 5:27:18 PM PST by FierceDraka ("I AM NOT A NUMBER - I AM A FREE MAN!")
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