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Memo to the Senate Democrats: Firing the Capitol Hill Memo Leakers May be Unconstitutional
12-01-03
| Jonathan M. Stein
Posted on 12/01/2003 7:13:11 AM PST by jmstein7
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To: suzyq5558
Actually, I have been on vacation on and off quite a bit over the last few weeks.
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posted on
12/01/2003 11:32:12 AM PST
by
RonF
To: jmstein7
Nice opportunity to pound sand up their rat arses.
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posted on
12/01/2003 11:51:16 AM PST
by
RJS1950
To: jmstein7
Thanks for the ping!
To: Alamo-Girl
My pleasure; pass the word on!
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posted on
12/01/2003 11:59:50 AM PST
by
jmstein7
To: All
BTTT!
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posted on
12/01/2003 12:22:49 PM PST
by
jmstein7
To: jmstein7
If the leakers are fired by the Senate, they may have actionable whistleblowing claims.... If the Senate fires staffers for leaking memos that outline how Senate Democrats have abused, or planned to abuse, their positions as United States Senators, the staffers will likely have a cause of action against the government based on First Amendment rights. Such action, on its merits, will get to the substance of the various memos. The burden will then be on the Democrats to defend the substance of the memos an untenable position, which includes, inter alia, defending the unprecedented filibusters of highly qualified minority nominees solely because powerful far left-wing interest groups want to merely deny Republicans the political capital associated with appointing minorities to the Federal bench. Who would have thunk it? But wasn't Linda Tripp a whistleblower? Proceed carefully.
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posted on
12/01/2003 12:48:21 PM PST
by
OESY
To: left-handed conservative chef
If the Senate fires staffers for leaking memos that outline how Senate Democrats have abused, or planned to abuse, their positions as United States Senators, the staffers will likely have a cause of action against the government based on First Amendment rights. Such action, on its merits, will get to the substance of the various memos. The burden will then be on the Democrats to defend the substance of the memos an untenable position, which includes, inter alia, defending the unprecedented filibusters of highly qualified minority nominees solely because powerful far left-wing interest groups want to merely deny Republicans the political capital associated with appointing minorities to the Federal bench.
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posted on
12/01/2003 5:01:18 PM PST
by
perfect stranger
(No tag line today. Tag line yesterday, tag line tomorrow, but no tag line today.)
To: jmstein7
Let's say I work with someone that I suspect is doing something illegal but I don't have any proof. I decide to break into their office and hack their computer to get the goods on them. I then turn that information over to the press (not the police or my employer) but the press. The evidence gathering doesn't justify my breaking and entering.
That doesn't make the person that is doing something illegal - innocent or should the evidence found be ignored, but it does seem to me that I should be held accountable for breaking and entering.
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posted on
12/01/2003 5:32:50 PM PST
by
ODDITHER
To: All
BUMP!
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posted on
12/02/2003 5:07:57 AM PST
by
jmstein7
To: ODDITHER; All
Except that the computers weren't hacked; they were on a common server (thanks to Leahy). It's not the staffer's fault that the memos were stored in public for all to see (which is why they knew of their existence). It would have been different if they indeed did "hack" into protected servers to get the info, but that is not what happened here.
Plus, congress is considered a "single entity" by its own rules.
Therefore, it was absolutely correct to "blow the wistle" on this corruption; the people at large (we the people) have a string interest in knowing if their elected officials are abusing their offices.
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posted on
12/02/2003 5:12:58 AM PST
by
jmstein7
To: jmstein7
"Strong" (not string)
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posted on
12/02/2003 5:13:36 AM PST
by
jmstein7
To: jmstein7
BTTT
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posted on
12/02/2003 5:17:37 AM PST
by
nicmarlo
To: jmstein7; ODDITHER
Excellent analysis... below is a link to an article in WSJ, this morning, which is also quite succinct!
(excerpted from WSJ article)
A statement put out last week by Mr. Hatch's office says that the accused staffer "improperly accessed at least some of the documents referenced in the media reports." That accusation bears scrutiny in light of how the committee's computer system is organized: Until Nov. 16, all Judiciary staffers used the same computer server and had access to a shared drive, a system put in place when Sen. Leahy took over as chairman in 2001 and hired his own IT staff.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110004370 Excellent analysis... above is an article in WSJ, this morning, which is also quite succinct!
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posted on
12/02/2003 5:23:02 AM PST
by
pageonetoo
(I do not support all drug use being legalized, just Rush's... for the chil'run!)
To: Dog; lysie; mountaineer; Miss Marple
Interesting stuff.
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posted on
12/02/2003 5:33:18 AM PST
by
Iowa Granny
(One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
To: jmstein7
This is a terrific analysis!
Rush *should* do more on this subject. I don't know why he isn't.
To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; holdonnow
You've probably been pinged already, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be curious to know what you think of this. Ditto. You took the thought right out of my brain! :o)
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