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Flu Vaccine Makers (both) Are Out Of The Vaccine
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| 12-5-2003
| Shep Smith
Posted on 12/05/2003 12:49:03 PM PST by blam
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To: MineralMan
Piffle. Write back after your bout with the flu.
If of course hes not one of the annual average of 30,000 deaths in the US due to influenza. By the way this is shaping up to be a worse then average year....
81
posted on
12/05/2003 9:48:23 PM PST
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: rdb3
We're Northwest,Ozark to be exact. Wesley Clark is suppose to be here tomorrow evening for the annual Christmas parade. I hope he stays in Florida and "stands up" the whole town.
82
posted on
12/05/2003 10:29:01 PM PST
by
donnalee
To: !1776!
Sorry !1776!. I meant to send it in response to: Free Trapper. I am a newbie here and it is not clear how to just post to the whole thread....
To: Fpimentel
"restricting its use to people who are 60 and older."
that makes so much sense seeing how 11 CHILDREN have DIED from the flu....yep, lets take care of the seniors first.....geez......
I will tell you why this shortage is happening....last year or the year before there was a long delay in getting the vaccine to health care workers...the people in and among the sickest people in the country....
we couldn't get any vaccines at all.....but the govt. made sure it had its national forest and park people vaccinnated weeks before nurses could get vaccinated...
the govt should have an orderly distribution system where the vaccines go FIRST to the people on the front lines, then the sickly, the very young and the elderly, and not to some guy collecting tickets at a national park....
imagine the same sort of ridiculous allocation happened this year as well...
84
posted on
12/05/2003 10:38:51 PM PST
by
cherry
To: prairiebreeze; jslade; TBall
Flu-Mist, the nasal vaccine, is made from a live virus. Accordingly, it's only for those between the ages of 5-50 without preexisting conditions. I think it's more expensive than a flu shot but doesn't require a doctor's prescription to get it.
To: meanie monster
What causes death with the flu? Is it fever or fluid in the lungs? Influenza virus infects the cells that line the breathing tubes.
if there's enough virus, or if your immune response to the infection is strong enough, those cells get destroyed, along with the adjacent lung tissue.
The end stage of that process is fluid leaking from the damaged tissue into normal lung, causing inability to oxygenate the blood and death.
To: cherry
he govt should have an orderly distribution system where the vaccines go FIRST to the people on the front lines, then the sickly, the very young and the elderly, and not to some guy collecting tickets at a national park.... imagine the same sort of ridiculous allocation happened this year as well...Central planning does not work.
Ever.
To: Free Trapper
What would happen if SARS gets a foothold,too? SARS will come back. It's just a question of time.
We know that it came into the human population from wild Civet Cats in China. There are many wild animals in the food marketplaces of China, and in these marketplaces 7 out of 10 workers have anti-bodies for SARS.
The last outbreak of SARS primarily affected Chinese people of Western Chinese origin - whether they were actually in Western China or they were in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore or Toronto. It seems that this strain favored the Western Chinese.
SARS will return, since the wild Civet Cats have returned to these bazaars after being banned for a short time. It's only a question of time before this disease has a second shot at infecting the human population.
How it spreads from animals to humans:
Many wild animals are slaughtered in Chinese markets daily. After a time, the offal begins to smell bad and they spray it off the sidewalks with high pressure "Power Washers". This creates mist and droplets of fluid which disperse in the air, and is subsequently breathed in by people in the vicinity.
This practice was stopped for a brief time during the SARS outbreak and shortly after, but has now resumed.
88
posted on
12/06/2003 5:43:40 AM PST
by
Bon mots
To: Bon mots; blam
89
posted on
12/06/2003 6:28:35 PM PST
by
riri
To: riri
Thanks for posting that link, riri. I read an article about this yesterday but I wasn't familiar with the news source. I see your source is ProMed. I think something is up in Russia.
90
posted on
12/06/2003 7:03:57 PM PST
by
flutters
(God Bless The USA)
To: flutters
There actually was a rumor that the students had SARS, but there is no hard data. It might just be a Fujian flu fed by suspicions of a pneumonia death.
91
posted on
12/06/2003 8:00:17 PM PST
by
kdono
To: !1776!
I'm allergic to the shot--big time. The nasal vaccine isn't available here right now. I do live in an extremely rural area, one of my jobs is a 130 mile round trip, the other only 70.
92
posted on
12/06/2003 8:16:32 PM PST
by
Judith Anne
(Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
To: Bon mots
The last outbreak of SARS primarily affected Chinese people of Western Chinese origin - whether they were actually in Western China or they were in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore or Toronto. Any references for the above statement?. The Toronto Star gave info on most of the deaths and most were not even from Asia. The only HLA link I saw was a paper long on theory and short on data (the sample size was small, used patients from Taiwan where the published data is VERY suspect, and could only get a significant number y looking for subsets and the larger population failed to yield a significant number0.
93
posted on
12/07/2003 3:31:26 AM PST
by
kdono
To: kdono
I saw a CNN television special which relayed the particular fact in question.
94
posted on
12/07/2003 7:31:49 AM PST
by
Bon mots
To: flutters; All
Excellent, level headed information regarding the flu, the vaccine, etc.
Influenza A H3N2
Important to note that the information states that deaths in children are about where they should be for this time of the year.
Not sure what to think about this Russia story, just have to keep our eyes on it.
95
posted on
12/07/2003 8:38:15 AM PST
by
riri
To: Bon mots
I don't think there's any way to stop all the trade of anything in the Asian markets.
If one critter is outlawed and people stop selling them,then the price for them will go up,as they'll be considered a delicacy and someone will then start selling again to make the big money.
Even the legal international trade in wildlife,both live and dead,has dangers,as does anything
Once something's outlawed,it will move to the underground market where there're even more dangers because the dealers are completely unscrupulous.Anything for a buck.
96
posted on
12/08/2003 4:05:19 AM PST
by
Free Trapper
(One with courage is often a majority)
To: Free Trapper
Don't be a dumbass. Just because someone disagrees with flu-shots and is a newbie doesn't make them a troll.
To: Rebelbase
My statement was meant as a friendly headsup because I'd seen about three with the same sign on date get zapped,IIRC.
I sure wouldn't have put a smile behind it if it wasn't meant friendly,it could have been nothing or something else.I also would have worded it differently.
Good morning. :)
98
posted on
12/08/2003 4:40:33 AM PST
by
Free Trapper
(One with courage is often a majority)
To: Free Trapper
Point taken. I'm pre-caffinated and had a restless sleep last night. My apologies for being cranky.
To: Rebelbase
Understood for sure.In fact,ever since I posted it,I've been trying to find a better way to have said it.
I can't seem to find anything better in my mind.Simple truth and a smile didn't come out as well as I'd have wished in this case.:o)
100
posted on
12/08/2003 4:59:03 AM PST
by
Free Trapper
(One with courage is often a majority)
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