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There They Go Again
NY Times ^ | 12/6/03 | NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

Posted on 12/05/2003 10:14:16 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Watching presidential politics lately, I've been thinking back to when I was 13 years old and had my heart broken for the first time.

It was 1972, and I was antiwar and infatuated with Senator George McGovern. But as I handed out McGovern leaflets in Yamhill County, Ore., I was greeted as if I were the Antichrist. Soon afterward, Mr. McGovern was defeated in a landslide.

As Howard Dean will probably be, if the Democrats nominate him.

It is, of course, the Democrats' privilege to stand on principle, embrace the man they admire most and leap off a cliff together. Political parties have a hoary tradition of committing principled suicide, as the G.O.P. did with Barry Goldwater in 1964 and, most masochistically, the Democrats did three times with William Jennings Bryan from 1896 to 1908.

Yet my guess is that the Democratic faithful are being not so much high-minded as muddle-headed. Many Democrats so despise President Bush that they don't appreciate what a strong candidate he will be in November, and they don't grasp how poorly Mr. Dean is likely to fare in battleground states.

Mr. Bush beat Mr. Dean, 52 percent to 41 percent, in a recent Pew poll. Meanwhile, the economy appears to be strengthening in time for the election. Of the 51 economic forecasters surveyed by Blue Chip Economic Indicators, all but one expect the economy to grow more rapidly in 2004 than it has in the last 33 months.

Against the Bush juggernaut, Mr. Dean faces three disadvantages.

First, geography. The only Democrats who have won the popular presidential vote since John Kennedy took office (when the Southern boom started) have all been Southerners: Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Swing states are mostly in the South and Midwest, so the key for both parties is to find a candidate who can seduce "Reagan Democrats," like Ohio steelworkers and Tennessee tobacco farmers. Not another Michael Dukakis.

Second, style. Angry bluster rouses the party faithful, but it frightens centrists. The last two presidents who were fervently hated, Richard Nixon and Mr. Clinton, both won two terms; today's liberal disgust could do the same for Mr. Bush by leading to a nominee like Mr. Dean, who warms the hearts of the party's core but leaves others cold. Furious liberals already bear some responsibility for the situation because enough of them voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 to sink Al Gore.

Moreover, Mr. Dean is smart, but he knows it. America's heartland oozes suspicion of Eastern elitists, and Mr. Dean's cockiness would exacerbate that suspicion. President Clinton oozed charm and was fluent in Southern ("even a blind hog can find an acorn," he'd say scornfully), while Mr. Dean needs a Berlitz course in self-deprecating folksiness.

Mr. Dean's recent remarks about Southern men and Confederate flags showed both his awareness of this problem and his ineptitude in addressing it. He also described the episode as a "huge contretemps," and I seriously doubt that anybody who publicly uses the word "contretemps" can ever be elected president.

You get the feeling that if Mr. Dean and Mr. Bush were stuck together in a small Missouri town, Mr. Dean would lecture farmers about Thomas Paine's writings, while Mr. Bush would have the cafe crowd in stitches by doing impersonations of Mr. Dean.

The third problem is biography. Mr. Dean may be the one Democrat who is even more blue-blooded than Mr. Bush and who has an even lamer excuse for dodging Vietnam. Mr. Dean grew up on Park Avenue in an old aristocratic family, and after getting his medical deferment from the draft, he moved to Aspen to ski. Unlike other politicians, Mr. Dean doesn't even pretend to be particularly religious, and that's a major political weakness in the battleground states.

Don't get me wrong. I agree with Mr. Dean on many issues, and I admire his willingness to oppose our Iraq invasion from the beginning. But shiny-eyed teenagers who distribute leaflets for him in places like Yamhill County are going to get very cold stares — and end up heartbroken.

If the Democrats are serious about governing, they should remember the words of one of their nominees, Adlai Stevenson. After one of his typically brilliant campaign speeches, someone shouted out to Stevenson from the crowd that he had the votes of all thinking Americans.

Stevenson shouted back, saying that wasn't enough: "I need a majority!"


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1 posted on 12/05/2003 10:14:16 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
If the Democrats are serious about governing, they should remember the words of one of their nominees, Adlai Stevenson. After one of his typically brilliant campaign speeches, someone shouted out to Stevenson from the crowd that he had the votes of all thinking Americans.

Stevenson shouted back, saying that wasn't enough: "I need a majority!"

I have not heard this from Dean as yet, perhaps later. ROFL!!

2 posted on 12/05/2003 10:30:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
If you are a 13 year old male, and you had your heart broken for the first time by a middle aged male politician, you have severe issues.
3 posted on 12/05/2003 10:31:53 PM PST by William McKinley
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
By the way, I have seen absolutely no evidence that Dean is smarter than Bush. I am not comfortable assured that he is smarter than my cat. For a self-described very smart guy, he comes across as a complete moron.
4 posted on 12/05/2003 10:36:46 PM PST by William McKinley
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
> I was greeted as if I were the Antichrist.

Hi, there, anti-Christ. How's Mrs. anti-Christ and all the little anti-Christians?

5 posted on 12/05/2003 10:42:11 PM PST by T'wit
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
he had the votes of all thinking Americans. Stevenson shouted back, saying that wasn't enough: "I need a majority!"

Thinly veiled condescension once again. That's about all you can expect from Kristof. (And what kind of 13 yr. old kid hands out leaflets for McGovern, or any presidential candidate for that matter? Loser with a Capital L).

6 posted on 12/05/2003 10:48:25 PM PST by squidly
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To: William McKinley
He did get an MD degree. So he has to know a little science. He has not spent much time in washington and he is not a lawyer, two more pluses.

Dean is honest and straight forward like Bush.

Dean has spent too much time in Vermont where socialism sort of works because it is a very small, homogeneous community.

If I were a democrat, I would like Dean.
8 posted on 12/05/2003 10:59:05 PM PST by staytrue
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To: TexNotMex
Please refrain from that kind of post; it's inappropiate and unacceptable here.
9 posted on 12/05/2003 11:04:57 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: staytrue
If I were a democrat, I would like Dean.

Damning with faint praise, eh?

[And I'm hoping you're correct.]

10 posted on 12/05/2003 11:07:01 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: William McKinley
If you are a 13 year old male, and you had your heart broken for the first time by a middle aged male politician, you have severe issues.

Agreed. I spent most of my 13th year thinking about Raquel Welch!

11 posted on 12/05/2003 11:10:54 PM PST by Maynerd
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I don't think Dean will get the nomination -- but what an entertaining primary season it will be. And the convention may be particularly bloody.
12 posted on 12/05/2003 11:19:32 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Proud member - Neoconservative Power Vortex)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This is the most honest assessment of what is going down in the coming election that I have seen from the New York Times. Dean may eletrify the hate-America crowd, but his show will flop in places like Peoria. Kristoff did miss one thing: Dean's unabashed support for gay marraige which will turn away Reagan Democrats.
13 posted on 12/05/2003 11:20:40 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: D-fendr
Sorry D-fendr, did not mean to offend you.
14 posted on 12/05/2003 11:30:02 PM PST by TexNotMex
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Pretty honest assessment! Especially the anger issue which will only get worse instead of improve. He always appears like he is about to loose it.


15 posted on 12/05/2003 11:31:25 PM PST by armymarinemom (I Rocked the Cradle of Death from Above)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Is Kristof from Yamhill County, Oregon?
16 posted on 12/05/2003 11:39:02 PM PST by WHATNEXT?
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To: squidly
what kind of 13 yr. old kid hands out leaflets for McGovern, or any presidential candidate for that matter?

One who will grow up to be a Freeper? Granted that I had advanced to the ripe old age of 16, but I really did that for Barry Goldwater. I know exactly how the author feels.

17 posted on 12/05/2003 11:39:26 PM PST by Nick Danger (With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
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To: squidly
squidly said:
"And what kind of 13 yr. old kid hands out leaflets for McGovern..."

The red-diaper doper baby kind of kid. That's who.
18 posted on 12/06/2003 12:26:45 AM PST by RatSlayer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
You already DID HEAR IT FROM DEAN.

You heard the arrogant Liberal assumption that they are better than the rest of America paired with knowing they need the votes of people they despise to get them elected... Dean said:

"I want to be the President of the guys with confederate flags on their pickup trucks"

Liberal elitism lives!

19 posted on 12/06/2003 1:36:06 AM PST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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To: staytrue
"Dean has spent too much time in Vermont where socialism sort of works because it is a very small, homogeneous community. "

It 'sort of works' because a bunch of Manhattan Socialists - like Dean - marched up to Vermont and invaded a formerly pleasant rural state and turned it into their own socialist commune writ large. The state is not homogeneous, the noisy liberal activists have merely browbeaten the existing populace into submission.

20 posted on 12/06/2003 1:40:58 AM PST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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