Bishop Objected to AIDS Walk

Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 12/06/03 | Amy Rinard and Tom Held

[Jim Noble]

If it is true that an Episcopal diocese (probably Fort Worth) has asked Rome for Uniate status, and if it is granted (a huge and very improbable if), you would have the peculiar situation where an orthodox Anglican use Roman Catholic bishop shared a territory (Dallas) with a revisionist "real Catholic" bishop.

Will wonders never cease?

[sinkspur]

Father Michael Hammer, director of Catholic AIDS Ministry for the Milwaukee Archdiocese, said he does not see his participation in the AIDS Walk as promoting a homosexual lifestyle but as a way to help pay for compassionate care and support of people with AIDS and HIV.

Apparently, Archbishop Dolan is not as dogmatic on participation in an AIDS walk as Burke is.

Dolan and Hammer's approach seems the better one, IMO.

[sinkspur]

If it is true that an Episcopal diocese (probably Fort Worth) has asked Rome for Uniate status, and if it is granted (a huge and very improbable if), you would have the peculiar situation where an orthodox Anglican use Roman Catholic bishop shared a territory (Dallas) with a revisionist "real Catholic" bishop.

Where did you get the idea that Bishop Iker asked for Uniate status? He's been telling everyone who'll listen that he wants to be part of a conservative Anglican movement.

[Mr. Lucky]

Protestant kudos to this Christian leader.

[polemikos]

cooperating materially with groups that act against the moral law

clarity bump!

[Jim Noble]

Where did you get the idea that Bishop Iker asked for Uniate status?

Somebody did. I was guessing, based on the already-existing Anglican use activity in Texas.

[sinkspur]

Well, Iker could have asked, but it would be in spite of all that he's saying publicly.

[NYer]

"What is of graver scandal, they both promote homosexuality among young people," Burke wrote.

"By participating in AIDS Walk Wisconsin, the Central Wisconsin HIV/AIDS Ministry would be cooperating materially with groups that act against the moral law."

A catholic bishop in veritable support of church doctrine! We need more like him! Bravo Bishop Burke.

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[ElkGroveDan]

These people need to understand that there IS a cure for AIDS. They don't need their walks and their banners and their pamphlets.

If everyone would adhere to Catholic doctrine, and practice heterosexual monogamy, AIDS would disappear.

[ninenot]

Given the flaming proclivity of Dolan's predecessor, and the usual lag time between the arrival of a Catholic Bishop and the re-institution of Catholic principles in a Diocese, Dolan has about another 2-5 years to blow off the Archdiocesan support for this bunch of sex-hustlers.

But he will.

Hammer's merely a zit with confusion. The model was given by Christ, (known for compassion, no?) when he said to the woman "Your sins are forgiven. Go, and SIN NO MORE.

[sinkspur]

Dolan has about another 2-5 years to blow off the Archdiocesan support for this bunch of sex-hustlers.

If he felt strongly about the issue, he would do it now. What does it take? A phone call? A letter?

Burke's a hammer; Dolan isn't, as could be seen from his reaction to the optional celibacy discussions.

[Kevin Curry]

"The AIDS Walk raises money for organizations that actively and publicly promote homosexual activity, thus cooperating in the activities of these organizations and giving them a kind of legitimacy in the public forum," Burke wrote to Nelson. "This is completely unacceptable."

A righteous man is found in Sodom.

Almost all AIDS is spread by irresponsible and perverted sexual practices or intravenous drug abuse. To raise money for organizations that promote and defend irresponsible and perverted sexual practices undermines the purpose for which the money is ostensibly raised.

[RobbyS]

Almost all AIDS is spread by irresponsible and perverted sexual practices or intravenous drug abuse. To raise money for organizations that promote and defend irresponsible and perverted sexual practices undermines the purpose for which the money is ostensibly raised. 32<True, but a truth dorwned out by thw willfully ignorant.

[ninenot]

Dolan is not going to 'hammer' anything for a while, except the criminal perverts.

He has about 60 priests who are serious problems, including Fr. Hammer, and an extraordinarily mal-catechized Archdiocese; remember, we had 27 years of Bertie and for that matter, Bertie's predecessor was a Chicago politician, not an Archbishop. The seminary has been rotten since 1965.

Given this, it APPEARS that Dolan's strategy is to become an 'unstoppable force' with the laity and as many of his priests as possible. This is why the 'cheesehead' and the humor, and the non-response to the "celibacy revolt."

BTW, Dolan's "refer-this-to-the-committee" response was death by other means, in case you haven't figured that out. But Dolan was not yet prepared to say 'drop dead' to the rebels.

It IS significant that Dolan NEVER makes an inaccurate statement re faith/morals and promotes orthodoxy and orthopraxis heavily.

This is not unlike JPII's overall approach: he is not going to directly confront an enemy against overwhelming odds; rather, he will say and do what is correct, go "over the heads" of the obstacles directly to the laity, and make his moves when the time is opportune.

It would be MUCH more satisfying to me and a large number of others in the Diocese were Dolan to become proficient with the new .50cal S&W--but that's not the approach he will take.

[ninenot]

Also note that Burke's AIDS letter went out two years ago; his "Politicians, Beware" letter went out about 6 months ago (?)--recently, in any case.

Burke has been Bp. of LaX for several years, and is native to the territory. He was positioned correctly, was well-liked, and has the Diocese reasonably well-in-hand.

[VRWC_minion]

thus cooperating in the activities of these organizations and giving them a kind of legitimacy in the public forum," Burke wrote to Nelson.

Which is the same message the Roman chruch has essentiall y delivered to the Episcopals. Ecumenicalism is doa for now.

[BlessedBeGod]

From what I've read, Fr. Hardon passed on some of his work to Bishop Burke to continue. He would never have done that if he didn't have the highest regards for Bp. Burke.

At one time, Fr. Hardon had said that there were only 6 or 7 bishops in the US who were completely loyal to the Church. I have to believe Bp. Burke is one of them.

[SuziQ]

Woo Hoo! He must be giving folks in that Diocese fits!! You GO, Archbishop Burke!

[attagirl]

At one time, Fr. Hardon had said that there were only 6 or 7 bishops in the US who were completely loyal to the Church.

and folks think Our Lady's Fatima request was carried out?

When the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?" .

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!