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To: jwalsh07
"I am clear where I draw the line, you evidently do not have the wherewithal to draw a line."

The only thing you lack however, is the chalk to draw that line with.

The US Constitution guarantees that even those who you would leave on the other side of your "line" get a voice.

The mistake lies in the very fact that there is government involvement in marriage to start.

40 posted on 12/08/2003 9:38:45 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The only thing you lack however, is the chalk to draw that line with.

Honest debate requires honesty Luis.

Let's try again.

Would your redefinition of the word marriage include whatever individuals wanted it to include or would you limit it to couples, be they heterosexual or homosexual?

Jump in Luis, the morality is fine.

43 posted on 12/08/2003 9:41:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The US Constitution guarantees that even those who you would leave on the other side of your "line" get a voice."

Indeed, and nobody is proposing denying anyone the vote, here.


"The mistake lies in the very fact that there is government involvement in marriage to start."

oy vey - WE HAD TO DESTROY THIS VILLAGE IN ORDER TO SAVE IT.

45 posted on 12/08/2003 9:43:25 PM PST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The mistake lies in the very fact that there is government involvement in marriage to start.

This was my point about this push (and why it is bad for society) above.

The non-traditional marriage movement seeks to remove any "approval" of marriages. Forget government "approval", I am talking "societal approval". This is a part of the culture war's attack on the family.

As I got you to admit, you still think that the government is permitted to restrict blood relations from marrying. Either they can restrict a marriage between adults or they can't.

We can argue over "who's" marriages can be outlawed but you have to settle whether the government has any say.

You believed that the genetic crapshoot of such a mating was too great a risk and that it intruded on your rights (somehow, what as a taxpayer???).

142 posted on 12/09/2003 12:45:10 AM PST by weegee (No blood for ratings! This means YOU AOL-Time-Warner-Turner-CNN)
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