Law fails to control junk guns (Three more anti-gun stories from the RINO News - SKS targeted)

Detroit Spews uh...news ^ | 12-15-03 | Melvin Claxton

[Dan from Michigan]

The 1968 Gun Control Act, aimed at stopping the flow of cheaply made, easily concealed handguns into the country, has done little to prevent the import of millions of guns that lack important safety features.

Most imported firearms don

[Dan from Michigan]

Sunday's Related Story

The rest of the hatchet jobs

Most imported firearms don’t have features that show if the guns are loaded or that prevent them from firing if the ammunition clips are removed

Guns are ALWAYS loaded. Also, if they are pointed in the same direction, there isn't a problem.

their weapons continue to injure, maim and kill.

No, they don't. PEOPLE injure, maim, and kill.

The 17-year-old was accidentally shot in the chest and killed in 1994 when a 14-year-old friend took the magazine with ammunition from an RG-26, and thinking the gun empty, pulled the trigger. A bullet remained in the chamber, and the gun fired, killing Blaydes.

Why the hell DID YOU POINT THE GUN AT HIM!!!!!!!

which sell for about $100
HUH?

In 1995, Sanders was watching a friend load a round into the chamber of a Chinese SKS when, without warning, the gun began firing in full automatic mode. His friend hadn’t touched the trigger

Who was the gun pointed at. I never load or unload my gun with the muzzle pointed at someone.

junk guns
I first heard that term from Barbara Boxer.

[Dan from Michigan]

Here we go again!!!!

[jim_trent]

> Attorney Brian Benner, who is representing the family, said police
> tests on the gun showed it fired at least three times when it was dropped.

How can a two-shot derringer fire three times?

[Buell_X1-1200]

If I remember correctly, the SKS wasn't designed to be a full-auto weapon. Anyone whose SKS fires on full-auto has been modified, and is most-likely a very dangerous weapon to the shoot.

Being an AK owner, I don't know the specifics. But I think read about it somplace. Does anyone else know any details?

[Tacis]

The folks in Detroit can simply drive over to Windsor, Ontario and buy almost any weapon they want, from automatic pistols to machine guns. There are no real limits or restrictions. That is because the Canadian retail gun industry is dominated by Jamaicans. Since the Canadian authorities are prohibited from dealing with black criminals and Jamaicans are black, they are free to ply their trade without concern.

In fact, the entire North American weapons trade (except, WMD which will still come across the Mexican border under the protection of President Fox and the Mexican army) may be turned over to these Jamaicans. Alas, they can't be sued in Canada for reasons of diversity.

[international american]

"I first heard that term from Barbara Boxer."

Figures. She is dumb as a brick wall. I'm stuck with her and Feinstein.How lucky could I get?:)

[brbethke]

The guns, manufactured for $14 apiece, lacked several important safety features, such as magazine safeties and loaded chamber indicators.

Rohm/RG made revolvers!!!!!!!

This article is yet another tale told by an idiot.

[RockChucker]

"In automatic mode, the SKS can fire at the rate of 1,200 rounds a minute."

Interesting point. with stripper clips, I seem to only max out at 1,100 rounds a minute.

[RicocheT]

What's the so-called design flaw in the SKS? Is it because the firing pin is free floating and doesn't have a spring to slightly retard it when the bolt goes forward?

Ones I've shot have never gone full auto. The trigger is so gritty and has a high pound count to overcome when squeezing that firing semi-auto is slow and hard to keep on target.

Every one of the shootings described in the article were from negligent or idiotic gun handling.

[Grut]

How can a two-shot derringer fire three times?

Probably meant to say "fired on three occasions when it was dropped."

Or, it could be one of those 'assault derringers'.

[Redbob]

"Most imported firearms don’t have features that show if the guns are loaded...

Nor do most guns made in the U.S.; case in point: the Model 1911.

Wanna know if a gun is loaded?
Here's how ya tell: Is it a gun?
Then it's loaded.

Nobody's ever been accidentally killed by a gun they knew was loaded.
Well, except for that porridge-brained "actor" who pointed a blank-firing pistol at his head and pulled the trigger a few years back...

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

Never heard of RG guns or any of their products. I don't care about loaded chamber indicators because they are useless.

It's quicker and smarter to just check the chamber yourself.

As far as magazine safeties go they are a death trap. I'm down to my last two rounds after firing several times to defend myself and decide to do a tactical reload. Now as I remove the magazine that is low on ammo I can't fire at an unepexted threat until I get the other magazine inserted.

You can still get an SKS no problem in this country so I don't know how they could be banned from import. I bet newly manufactured SKS would be banned and who the hell is making those?

[Grut]

Well, except for that porridge-brained "actor" who pointed a blank-firing pistol at his head and pulled the trigger a few years back...

If not 'before', then certainly 'after'....

[Redbob]

"The 1968 Gun Control Act, aimed at stopping the flow of cheaply made, easily concealed handguns..."

Wrong as usual, ink-breath!

The prohibitions on cheap hand-guns in the '68 GCA were intended to eliminate competition for domestic gunmakers, purely as a means of overcoming their opposition to the numerous other onerous provisions of that un-Constitutional law.

Just like the "Highway Safety Act" of about the same time banned the smallest cars - not because the Mini for example was unsafe, but to eliminate the competition in a market for which Detroit had no models.

[international american]

"Nobody's ever been accidentally killed by a gun they knew was loaded.
Well, except for that porridge-brained "actor" who pointed a blank-firing pistol at his head and pulled the trigger a few years back"

John Hexum won the Darwin award that year:)

[cruiserman]

The brain is the only safety these people needed and were lacking. I figured my Kel-Tec P11 was a junk gun, but not by this person's definition.

[longtermmemmory]

most definitly a new talking point.

Gun have a bullet indicator? Even if it had one, you would have to do what you do now. Assume it is loaded.

I see this as a product liability lawyer trick. By mandating these "is loaded" indicators, they liability lawyer would then have a hook to sue on. At present it is next to impossible to sue a product liability issue on guns. (do chain saws have a fuel indicator?, do electric outlets have an power indicator?)

They liability lawyer will then sue on violation of the bullet indictor and defective bullet indicator. I like the present 101 system. Assume a gun is always loaded. If you can't check a gun is empty, don't put it in your hands.

Old Greek saying, "The devil will put a bullet in an empty gun." IOW assume nothing.

[Free Trapper]

Ping to some more foolishness.

I like the SKSs and I have high quality rifles,also.They certainly have their place.

All my children had SKSs for their second rifles after .22s.They got them when they were only 7-8 years old and have never had any accidents or problems with them in many years.

For one thing,the SKS can be easily emptied and it's simple to see that it's unloaded.

They're only about as powerful as a 30-30 and a cartridge can sometimes hang in the tube on a lever action 30-30 and be missed when someone "thinks" it's unloaded.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

They're just getting warmed up for the new, more comprehensive ban on the second amendment that will replace the old AWB next fall.

[cryptical]

Most imported firearms don?t have features that show if the guns are loaded or that prevent them from firing if the ammunition clips are removed, a Detroit News investigation found. Fewer still have pistol grip safeties, effective in preventing children from discharging firearms by rendering the gun inoperable unless the grip safety and trigger are depressed at the same time.

I must have one of those cheap foreign pistols. My SIGs have no mag safety, no pistol grip safety, no manual safeties at all. I'm not sure if there's a loaded chamber indicator, because even if there were I wouldn't trust it.