In the not to distant past, a man marrying another man and having it codified by the USSC was unthinkable.
Now, even in the ranks of the "conservative" Republican party . .
1 posted on
12/17/2003 6:34:03 AM PST by
Happy2BMe
To: Happy2BMe; Viking2002; Willie Green; JCEccles; WOSG; little jeremiah; pyx; 185JHP; SJSAMPLE; ...
Bush Says He Could Back Gay Marriage Ban ping!
2 posted on
12/17/2003 6:40:14 AM PST by
Happy2BMe
(2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
To: Happy2BMe
You've got my vote Mr. president!!!!!!!!!!!
3 posted on
12/17/2003 7:02:16 AM PST by
sarge4
To: Happy2BMe
This *is* a bad idea. The purpose of the Constitution was to *limit* federal power in the face of protecting liberty. Bush is two-faced in saying he's a states rights fan on one hand while championing a federal constitutional change which would effect each and every state.
"Sanctity of marriage" is a laughable cliche. The sacramental tradition of marriage in some faiths, of some Americans, is *not* the domain of the federal government. Sorry, W.
A government's business in marriage records is all about inheritance, property and other issues. There's no point in maintaining separate law for homosexuals to duplicate the rights, privileges, burdens and penalties of marriage law. I find no rational justification for coming down opposed to any two legally responsible individuals being able to "marry" with all the good and bad of that legal status.
You can't argue "it will destroy the family" since marriage is a legally binding status accepted by publicly witnessed choice. Persons already pro-create outside of marriage and there's no forcing the mother to identify the father let alone forcing them to marry. Where is your right to prevent two random adults from marriage be they gay or living in sin or what have you? Separate contracts can and have been fought in courts by "disapproving" family members at times when their loved one is unable to speak for himself or herself. If that's not an assault on that individual's liberty, I'm not sure I know what is.
I think it's pretty clear we need to get over ourselves and allow and encourage homosexual Americans to court, marry, support one another and be faithful to their spouses. This societal acceptance and support of monogamous lives among gays can and would have a tremendous positive impact on the spread of STDs including HIV. It would be *good* for the society at large.
I think there's an irrational fear about a sudden increase in homosexuals "coming out" if they were allowed to marry. People are afraid their children will experiment in ways they perhaps don't already, afraid their kids might "choose" to be gay simply because that kind of marriage would be an option. There might well be a few more homosexuals who are comfortable enough not to become deceivers and live depressed and loveless lives in phony heterosexual marriages. Better than the heterosexual spouse be able to find someone who can love him or her fully than be lulled into a lie whether it would be a union which produced children or not.
Bush is wrong on this issue: a ban of this kind has no purpose in the US Constitution.
To: Happy2BMe
He "could" back it? It's a huge pity that he won't UNEQUIVOCALLY back it! This is just more evidence of the moral slippage in the GOP. Very disappointing.
To all Christians in the GOP: Come out of her my people!
14 posted on
12/17/2003 9:28:57 AM PST by
exmarine
( sic semper tyrannis)
To: Happy2BMe
Let us not forget that Bush recently praised teh Metropolitan church (gay church) in Los Angeles. This man speaks out of both sides of his mouth.
15 posted on
12/17/2003 9:30:39 AM PST by
exmarine
( sic semper tyrannis)
To: Happy2BMe
Certainly, he
could, but will he?
25 posted on
12/17/2003 11:05:06 AM PST by
William Terrell
(Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
To: All
This is the committee that has the Federal Marriage Amendment.
This is at www.house.gov
It has also been introduced at www.senate.gov
These members count the letters of support.
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