You can't go without a fag. You need it for your hash."

Addiction ^ | Jan 2004 | Amanda Amos, Susan Wiltshire, Yvonne Bostock, Sally Haw & Ann McNeill

[qam1]

A qualitative exploration of smoking, cannabis and young people

Aims: To examine the relationship between smoking tobacco and cannabis use among smokers in their mid-to-late teens.

Design and participants: Two qualitative studies in Scotland. One study used semistructured paired interviews involving 99 16-19-year-old smokers, the other comprised eight focus groups involving 46 15-16-year-old smokers.

Measurement: The interviews and focus groups explored the role and meaning of smoking in the participants' lives, smoking histories and future cessation intentions and how these related to other aspects of their lives, particularly cannabis use.

Findings: Cannabis use was regarded as an important and enjoyable aspect of many of the participants' lives. Importantly, cannabis use and cigarette smoking were linked inextricably. Several reported how smoking joints had been a 'gateway' to smoking cigarettes. While most wanted to quit smoking cigarettes, cannabis use reinforced their cigarette smoking and few wanted to stop using cannabis.

Conclusion: National studies need to be conducted to examine how widespread the problem identified is and tobacco control initiatives and smoking cessation treatment services need to consider urgently how to overcome the barrier that a desire on the part of young people to continue cannabis smoking poses to achieving a reduction in tobacco use.

[qam1]

OK, Let me get this straight. According to this the smoking of the pot by itself by kids isn't bad and we shouldn't be concerned about that at all but what we should be really worried about is those kids that are smoking pot might be tempted to smoke a cigarette!!!!!!

[qam1]

Children smoking pot --- OK
Children Smoking a cigarette ---Bad

PING

[11th Earl of Mar]

I can go for a LOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGG time without a fag.

As a matter of fact, I have never had a fag.

And I never plan to have a fag.

[Huck]

When I first quit smoking cigarettes, I stopped smoking marijuana also, because smoking pot made me want to smoke a cig. The routine was that after we'd passed around a joint or finished smoking a bowl, we'd all light up a smoke. Just habit.

About a year after I quit cigarettes, I smoked pot again. It gave me a strong craving to smoke a cig, cuz it was the first time I'd inhaled smoke since I quit. So I once again didn't have pot for a long time.

Eventually, I was able to have the occasional cigar--no inhaling--which was nice. I LIKE tobacco. I just don't like being a chain smoking cancer patient, which is where cigs were taking me.

Long story short--now I don't smoke cigs or cigars, but I do smoke pot. I just cleaned out my pipe, I'm ready to pack a bowl, grab a cup of joe, and watch some sunday idiot talk shows.

[martin_fierro]

"You can't go without a fag. You need it for your hash."

Your thoughts, please.

<|:)~

[metesky]

Through the looking glass.

[battlegearboat]

A little early morning baking, eh Huck?

Did you shine up the Proto or was it a Dr. Graybill?

Well be careful, my friend, and never possess too much or they'll crucify you.

[Sidebar Moderator]

If this thread gets moved into the sidebars again it will be pulled

[qam1]

OK.

"Fag" is the British term for a cigarette and this article is from the UK so it's not discribing homosexuals in this context

[R. Scott]

Now pot is a gateway drug for nicotine? I always thought it was the other way around.

[headsonpikes]

I see you've gone back to the metesky 401-K plan!

Have a Merry Christmas and prosperous 2004, George!

;^)

[qam1]

Now pot is a gateway drug for nicotine? I always thought it was the other way around.

Well this is the key (as always) Quote "National studies need to be conducted".

So the antis are trying to get money any way they can and with this study they are probably hoping to get some of the money spend of fighting drugs

[Lazamataz]

You can't go without a fag.

Paging Mr. Morford. Paging Mr. Mike Morford.

[Hillary's Folly]

I suppose to people who form their strident opinions on marijuana by never having tried it, this study must seem silly. But this is how it happened to me. Pot came first in undergraduate school, by graduate school I was smoking cigs to compensate for time when I could not smoke pot.

I finally quit both, and would never put a cigarette in my mouth again. If it were legal, I doubt I could say the same thing about pot. Anyone whose smoked both knows the cig IS worse than the pot.

[leadpenny]

You're being sarcastic when you refer to this as a thread, right?

[Dane]

Anyone whose smoked both knows the cig IS worse than the pot.

A question, who would rather have do surgery on you. A doctor who just smoked a cigarette or a doctor who had just smoked a joint?

I ain't saying that tobacco is benign. What I am saying is that marijuana is mind altering, while tobacco isn't.

[Huck]

Anyone whose smoked both knows the cig IS worse than the pot.

I think I may have scientifically proven that. One day, hanging out with from friends in a college dorm, I decided to do a bong hit of Marlboro Red. I think I turned some interesting shades of green on that one!

[Huck]

A question, who would rather have do surgery on you. A doctor who just smoked a cigarette or a doctor who had just smoked a joint?

Hey Dane. That's a good question. I would choose doc who just had a cig over the doc who just smoked a joint. But now let's change doctor and instead put in "reggae guitarist", and you can see how the results may vary. Different strokes to move the world.

[tacticalogic]

I ain't saying that tobacco is benign. What I am saying is that marijuana is mind altering, while tobacco isn't.

Nicotine and THC are both classified as psychoactive drugs. The surgeon issue is a red herring.

[Dane]

Hey Dane. That's a good question. I would choose doc who just had a cig over the doc who just smoked a joint. But now let's change doctor and instead put in "reggae guitarist", and you can see how the results may vary. Different strokes to move the world

I understand that, but one of the best guitarists there is, Ted Nugent, is anti-pot, so that stereotype isn't true either.

HF blanketly stated that tobacco was more dangerous than pot, which isn't true, but is dogma to modern day Liberals and Libertarians.

I am not saying that you or HF are liberals or Libertarians, just that you are parroting one of their talking points.