Democrats subvert war intelligence(threatened national security?)

http://worldnetdaily.com/ ^ | December 23, 2003 | J. Michael Waller Insight

[Shermy]

Payoff...Saudi lobby jobs on the "back end."

[Grampa Dave]

If Rockerfeller pushed it...I'm still wondering whether Wilson was soliciting gold mining business from the Niger government at the same time he was exonerating it about uranium.

Hell, push it. Anything is fair against Rockerfellow.

[Wolfstar]

It centered on duping the panel's Republican chairman, Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas...bipartisanship ended last year when Democrats demanded that the committee staff be split...the Republicans caved, and the staff director of the Democrats, Christopher Mellon, built his own autonomous apparatus.

This problem of weakness on the Republican side seems primarily to occur in the Senate. I don't understand the reason for it. Perhaps the fact that there are only 100 senators let's them get too chummy and collegial with each other. Whatever the reason, this memo exposed the fact that Republican weakness and Democrat aggressiveness have gone beyond mere political annoyance to a point where the effect is truly seditious and dangerous for the nation.

I think in the new year, we in the politically astute public should put enormous pressure on Republican senators to get very, very tough with the Democrat side. If it means everything grinds to a halt in the Senate, so be it.

[Wolfstar]

Thanks for the ping, okie01. While I'm not surprised to learn that the Wilson nonsense had its origin with the Dems on Capitol Hill, my guess would have been that it started on the House side with that creep, Henry Waxman. Unlike many FReepers, I don't see a Clinton conspiracy behind every Leftist/Dem move. There are plenty of Leftist/Dem Bush and/or America-haters with the power and venality to act on their own.

[Wolfstar]

Personally, I think it qualifies as "giving aid and comfort to the enemy." Article 3, Section 3 of the United States Constitution says, "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them [the states], or in adhering to their enemies, giving them [enemies] aid and comfort."

Although the Consitution sets a very high bar to convict a person of treason, there is no question that a deliberate corruption of national intelligence, thereby national security, in a time of war is a treasonous act.

Another anti-Constitutional point which Rockefeller and all other elected officials who do this sort of thing is that they violate their oaths of office. Article 4 of the Constitution states: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution...

The Oath of Office for the Legislative Branch reads as follows:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."

In my opinon, Rockefeller should be censured by the Senate for the naked corruption of our Senate's national intelligence and security oversight process. The members of his staff who participated should be fired.

[gaspar]

I'm not sure to what the "FBI" Niger investigation refers. Does that differ from the "CIA" investigation?

[Shermy]

Looking at the memo, I think it may have simply been a request to the FBI AFTER the hoo-hah became public, and not necessarily as improper as this writer implies.

That is, an investigation into the CIA and such by the FBI.

[okie01]

Refresh my memory, please. Didn't your research into the Plame/Wilson Affair reveal that Wilson, Krugman and Pincus, among others, had attended a Democrat Senate Policy Committee meeting early in the time line?

Jay Rockefeller likely attended this meeting, as well.

If so, the nexus of the entire plot has probably been identified.

[gaspar]

If you want to get a good idea of how Rockefeller has taken over the activity of the Intelligence Committee just make a google search and enter the name Wendy Morigi, Rockefeller's spokesperson.

[Gritty]

Very interesting article. it explains a lot.

What it doesn't explain is why these people still work within sensitive positions inside these critical intelligence bureaucracies. They should have been shown the door long ago!

[Fledermaus]

Yeah, you are technically correct. But since when have the Democrats cared about real law? ;-)

Oh, only when it's applied to them!

What's funny is that their friends in the mainstream press can't cover for them any longer. In a recent poll (I don't remember which) the respondents were asked if they knew about the GOP marathon session on judges and the majority said "yes". Bodes well since it shows people aren't getting all of their news from the same old sources.

[tinacart]

Post #15... Someone you just may recognize.

[piasa]

bttt

[pinz-n-needlez]

Bump

Doing a bit of dot-collecting. :-)

Pinz

[Peach]

Even before the memo was written, Rockefeller's staff already was off on its own, well outside the traditional bipartisan channels. According to the memo, the "FBI Niger investigation" of reports that Saddam Hussein's regime had tried to buy uranium from West Africa "was done solely at the request of the vice chairman."

Did we know it was Rockefeller who sent Wilson to Niger before this article?

This is one of WND's better articles and puts the entire fiasco in perspective. Thanks for the ping.

[pinz-n-needlez]

Wilson had always said that the Vice President asked questions, and he was sent to Niger. But he carefully parses it so that you're left with a precise impression, but he didn't actually say it. :-/

Lugsoul, do you have any comments or insights into this? Thanks. :-)

Pinz

[lugsoul]

Wilson's trip wasn't part of the FBI Niger investigation. It was part of the CIA Niger investigation.

I simply haven't seen the parsing you reference. It seems crystal clear to me that Wilson said (a) Cheney asked the CIA questions, (2) in response to those questions the CIA did some things, including sending Wilson to Niger, and (3) he's never talked to Cheney about it. I frankly think the whole "He needed to be debunked because he claimed Cheney sent him" fracas is a complete red herring.

[pinz-n-needlez]

I think Wilson meant to leave the impression early on that Cheney 'sent' him to Niger where he sipped tea.

But he was careful not to say that explicitly. (I first noticed your posts because of your insistance that he never 'said' that Cheney sent him.)

Implying that Cheney sent him but then (Cheney)backtracked and had his wife's position exposed in retribution for not toeing the party line was the beginning of Wilson's public tiff with the administration, if my memory serves.

When I first read your posts, I thought you were perhaps a partisan on Joe's team. I have since concluded that you are instead a very careful reader and user of language, which is why I tend to look for your take on these newer discoveries.

You agree that Wilson is flogging a red herring (excuse the mixed metaphor lol), but do agree that he consciously created that same herring?

Thanks for your input,
Pinz

[lugsoul]

Joe has a team?

I know your take on this is popular here, but I don't buy it. On CNN either the DAY OF his NYT editorial or the DAY AFTER (just can't recall which), he stated flatly that Cheney DID NOT send him, that the CIA did. How exactly that is intended to create a mistaken impression that Cheney sent him is completely lost on me.

No, I think the "he said Cheney sent him" meme is a red herring flogged by Wilson's most adamant critics. Which is baffling to me, because there are other, more substantive lines of attack. Kristof's language was certainly less than precise, but there isn't any reason to think he was simply transcribing Wilson's words. Kristof is a fairly precise writer, and is not just a transcriptionist.

What baffles me more than anything else is that we apparently had an entire WH team, including the Deputy NSA and various high-ranking staffers, spending the coin of the realm and not insubstantial time and effort responding to an op-ed piece by a former State employee that no one had ever heard of before. By elevating Wilson's importance far beyond what it would have been if they ignored him, the WH and their allies who don't know when to put down the megaphone created the myth that is Joe Wilson.

I will say this, though - based on the recent photos, Valerie is quite hot.

[pinz-n-needlez]

Well, he has a PR firm representing him, and hangs out with a whole group of lefty networkers. Yeah, I'd say he has a team.

I didn't hear that interview that you did. Makes sense that the difference in phrasing would make an impact on you, and why you worked so hard to clarify that point.

But given that he said Cheney didn't send him, do you think he's deliberately jerking aorund the administration, trying to create a scandal where there is just a regular, non-nefarious effort to correct the record and clarify a confusing situation?

Do you think the administration was 'out to get him' and worse, to do it by going after his wife?

Pinz