Theodore Roosevelt Dies Suddenly at Oyster Bay Home; Nation Shocked

The New York Times ^ | 1/6/2004

[MattAMiller]

What suprises me is how modern the style of writing is. There are some archaic word choices, but beyond that it looks a whole lot like something that would be written today.

[foolscap]

Didn't he write about an encounter with a Bigfoot type creature during one of his hunting trips in the west?

[foolscap]

All of TR's children grew up and where a credit to him. It is interesting to compare his family with the children of FDR. They were a pretty troubled lot. I think FDR's kids got little parental attention where as Teddy was very involved with his children's lives in spite of his busy schedule

[sinkspur]

LOL!!

And a happy New Year to you, too, Byron.

[sinkspur]

I look forward to the day when JR finally tires of your whining and naysaying and gives you your long-overdue boot.

You don't have to read or respond to what I post.

Until you take my advice and do that, I'm tickled that I still get under your very thin skin.

[RiflemanSharpe]

He was America's best President.

[AnAmericanMother]

TR also chose his second wife very wisely, and she was a good mother to the children. But as a child, how could you not love a man who never forgot childlike loves and enthusiasms? He was also a great horseman (if a bit on the rough-hewn side) and I have to respect that particularly.

Alice was his problem child - I think she really suffered from dead mama/absent father and it shaped her whole life. Nick Longworth was a brave, brave man! But I don't see what else TR could have done but go out West to get himself back together - better an absent father for a short time than a dead or insane one forever.

[AnAmericanMother]

I think you may be onto something here. GWB is stubborn - or as I would prefer to say, "determined". GWB is quieter in his public persona . . . TR was incandescent and (as Alice said) "the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral." He even had a shouting argument with Rudyard Kipling (which took some doing as Kipling was a very quiet man).

I may step on some toes here, but I think the difference is in GWB's humility. And that's probably because he is a much more committed Christian than TR - who was Dutch Reform (sort of) but sporadically attended Episcopal and Congregational churches. His second wife was Episcopal, and IIRC he was buried out of the Episcopal church at Oyster Bay.

Here is an account of his funeral service.

[Rebelbase]

"In my opinion, that is a trait that the current holder of that office shares to some degree with TR"

For a moment, forget about Terrorism.

With that removed, Look Pres. Bush's legacy:

Patriot Act: Contains blatant violations of Constitutional Freedoms.

Campaign Finance Reform: Stifles Free Speech during Elections.

Medicaid for Seniors: The largest entitlement in history, a move toward socialism.
Proposed Amnesty for Illegal Aliens: Instead of enforcing the laws as they were legislated, Bush decides to ignore them and reward the lawbreakers with Social Security benefits taken out of YOUR AND MINE PAYCHECKS.

Assaults Weapons Ban Sunset?...forget it, He has shown us he will not stand up to anything that could cost him votes.

There is an aura and infatuation with the man that transcends celebrity status, people see the glow and the shine(in comparison to the stain and darkness of the Clinton years) and are mesmerized....almost stupefied that this man would do nothing to cause harm to the Conservative cause....But that is exactly what has happened.

[shhrubbery!]

His selfish and egotistical third-party run gave the country the disastrous Woodrow Wilson.

Just heard on Curtis and Kuby radio show this morning: A group of high school students are campaigning to have the name of their school changed because the name honors a 'racist' president. The school's name? No, not Thomas Jefferson High, but Woodrow Wilson High School.

Sorry I didn't hear the location of the school.

Liberal historians have tried to suppress the fact that their icon, Wilson, was one of the most racist presidents in history.

Wilson resegregated the federal work force once he became president, after it had been desegrated all the decades since Reconstruction.

[Happy2BMe]

"Imagine TR going around the world bitching about Wilson during wartime like Jimmy Carter does!"

IMHO, TR was the last great Democrat.

[AnAmericanMother]

IMHO, TR was the last great Democrat.

Huh? The man was a lifelong Republican.

[Happy2BMe]

"Huh? The man was a lifelong Republican."

Exactly.

[AnAmericanMother]

Sorry, too subtle for me at this time of the morning . . .

[yarddog]

My Mother died this year and one of the first things I thought of was what TR said about his Father at the time of his death. He said something like "he was the best man I ever knew" and from what I have read the statement was likely true.

That is the exact same sentiment I had of my Mother. She was the best person I ever knew.

[AnAmericanMother]

My condolences to you on the loss of your Mother. I haven't faced that yet, and I dread it.

[yarddog]

Thanks, I always suspected TR was more of a Bullock than a Roosevelt.

He seemed to have the nature of a Southerner rather than a patrician New Yorker.

[Johnny_Cipher]

For a moment, forget about Terrorism. With that removed, Look Pres. Bush's legacy:

I consider this to be a small part of President Bush's continuing legacy. I think you don't give the man enough credit.

[Rebelbase]

And other than the Tax cut, name one of those things Bush did that you referenced that has affected your day to day life?

The legislation items I listed will affect all our daily lives.

[twigs]

he was an idea man

The problem is that some of his ideas would have devastated our country. For example, he wanted Supreme Court decisions to be voted on by the people. Taft ran such a hard campaign against him because he thought TR was such a danger to the country. Taft had a political tin-ear, but was essentially an honest man.