Angry White Man (For black voters, Dean is the un-Clinton)

A lot of people make the mistake of thinking the NAACP represents the entire spectrum of thought for blacks. Most blacks I work with and know are culturally more conservative than the whites I know and work with. However, they're also extremely suspicious. They feel like they've been boxed out, and fear a return to the days of knowing that a lot of jobs had "no blacks welcome" posted out front.

There's also an elitist wing of the Republican party that, if it doesn't dislike blacks, is scared of them. You're not going to get many votes in a district if you won't even show up in the neighborhood. Republicans will never be able to out-liberal the liberals in getting a percentage of the black vote, but I think there are many blacks who would vote Republican if they thought someone cared about their interests. This doesn't mean pushing a "black agenda" of quotas, welfare, and abortions. That plays to a black stereotype that's, if anything, more destructive than the Stepinfetchit characters common in old movies. It does mean acknowledging individuals as real live human beings and not simply demographics.

I think 30% is the breakover number, and I also think that's doable. At 30%, we start seeing black delegates at the conventions, signs in yards, and Rats seeing that the Jessie Jackson/Al Sharpton race-pimping is no longer working.

Here's the message I'd deliver: "Democrats want people broke, in projects and living on welfare because then they'll vote Democrat. We want people wealthy, in their own homes and working a good job because then they'll vote Republican."

The Dean camp, for example, likes to point out that as a Yale undergrad the candidate requested black roommates.
What is this? more Deenie bulls**t i do believe. just the fact that he claims to have requested black roommates is stupid and IMO insulting. but then Deenie isnt known for his tact is he?

I think people around here are getting a little too excited about Dean's collapse. We want him nominated, remember?

I think the same thing, but I think the media elite are now out to deconstruct Deanie to prevent what we want. It's fascinating to watch, especially while hoping the deconstruction fails.

The best development would be a Dean nomination followed by a Dean implosion.

Regards.

The best development would be a Dean nomination followed by a Dean implosion.

Followed by a Hillary-for-Howard switch, New Jersey style? (Remember the "Torch"?) I'm not looking forward to it.

Rules are only for us who believe in them.

This is why running mate will be critical in this election. And the real problem is that too many black people do feel that their vote does not count... That perception is a result of 2000.

Redistricting, Recall, and other things make too many feel like there is no political hope...

Need some work here...
Either way, the real truth is that those who show up and vote decide things...

The firstest with the mostest... (Never thought I would quote Nathan Bedford Forrest)

The firstest with the mostest... (Never thought I would quote Nathan Bedford Forrest)

***So when will you be attending the next CSA conclave?? I'm gonna tell on you....

There's also an elitist wing of the Republican party that, if it doesn't dislike blacks, is scared of them. You're not going to get many votes in a district if you won't even show up in the neighborhood

That's not elitism, it's self preservation. In my city, Blacks who live in integrated neighborhoods are approached by Republicans, and in fact, many of them are Republicans.
But the majority Black neighborhoods are high crime areas, and even the middle class Blacks won't go there. There are major events there, but you won't find a few volunteers walking the street.

Those areas do have high turnouts on election day. All Dem votes, of course. And I can assure you that the Dem party didn't have volunteers working the streets prior to the election, either.

I will go to one of those as soon as those people in he$$ get their iced water and we sit together to watch the ice hockey game on the the Lake of Fire... Until then, it would not be a good bet. :-)

um...I take that as a no? LOL