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Youths investigated in fake ID scam
The Cape Cod Times ^ | Jan 14, 2003 | Karen Jeffrey

Posted on 01/14/2004 12:59:53 AM PST by kingu

Youths investigated in fake ID scam

By KAREN JEFFREY
STAFF WRITER
HYANNIS - A 15-year-old boy and his 11-year-old brother, picked up last week on the Cape, are now under federal scrutiny for their roles in an operation that allegedly created and sold phony identification papers and work cards to Brazilian immigrants.

The two were taken into custody last Wednesday when Barnstable police closed in on a Hyannis apartment where phony and forged documents were allegedly sold.

The boys and their mother, all of whom live in Worcester, are being investigated by federal authorities because the state does not have jurisdiction over immigration crimes.

According to Barnstable Detective Brian Guiney, the 15-year-old is a major player in a Worcester-based ring that sells forged and phony documents primarily to Brazilian immigrants. His name was not released because he is a minor.

For the past month, Guiney and other investigators watched an apartment at 2 Mark Lane, Hyannis, the alleged Cape distribution center for the documents.

The investigation began when someone tipped Barnstable police that Brazilian people were lining up at the Mark Lane apartment two nights a week to get phony work papers, he said.

"On Tuesday nights someone would come down from Worcester to take photographs and get personal identifying information from people. On Wednesday, they'd come back to the Cape with the phony documents and hand them out," Guiney said.

Police used a confidential informant to get inside the apartment and buy fake identification, he said.


$450 for papers
The 15-year-old is accused of selling identification packets for $450 apiece, according to police. Included in the packets were: a Social Security card, an immigrant work authorization card with the buyer's photograph and fingerprints, and a Brazilian driver's license - all forged, Guiney said.

Individual pieces of identification, for those who did not want the whole packet, were sold at $150 a piece, according to Guiney.

Barnstable police stopped the 15-year-old last Wednesday night as he drove on Cape in a new $30,000 Chevy truck, Guiney said.

In his company were his 11-year-old brother and a 27-year-old man who police said spoke no English.

The truck was registered to the youth's 38-year-old mother, who told police she does not work.

The youth gave police a Brazilian driver's license that identified him as 18 years old, Guiney said.

"After talking with him for a while, he admitted to being 15," Guiney said.

The 11-year-old was released into the custody of family who live on the Cape.

The 27-year-old was taken into custody by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services and is being held pending a deportation hearing.


Charges depend on feds
The 15-year-old was charged with driving without a license and giving a false name to a police officer. He pleaded innocent to those charges Friday in Barnstable Juvenile Court and was released to a woman who identified herself as his mother, Guiney said.

The truck, which had been registered to the youth's mother, an undocumented alien from Brazil, was seized by the Barnstable police.

Guiney said the woman whose apartment was used to distribute the documents was not arrested by police "because she was not in violation of any state law that we could find."

But then, neither was the 15-year-old, Guiney said. "Being in possession of phony or forged documents like that is not against state law. That's where federal investigators come in."

Investigators from the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (formerly the Immigration and Naturalization Service), as well as the Social Security Administration are now looking at this 15-year-old youth as the possible mastermind behind the operation.

On Thursday, Worcester police, acting on a tip from Barnstable police, raided a Worcester apartment the youth shares with his mother and brother - all of whom are undocumented aliens from Brazil, according to police.

Police seized computers, printers, stamps and several phony Brazilian driver's licenses as well as forged U.S. government immigrant work permits.

The investigation is continuing.

Guiney said the two boys and their mother could face possible deportation proceedings if the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services decides they are here illegally.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aliens; fakeids; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
The 27 year old is being held for immediate deportion, yet this crime family is being investigated? That's just strange.
1 posted on 01/14/2004 12:59:53 AM PST by kingu
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
2 posted on 01/14/2004 1:01:45 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: kingu
"possible deportation"?DUH!
3 posted on 01/14/2004 2:25:39 AM PST by MEG33 (We Got Him!)
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To: kingu
The "poor mother" doesn't work but owns a $30,000 truck. The American dream?

There is nothing like a 15 year old driving without a valid drivers license. The 11 year old must be too short to drive as he can also get a fake drivers license easily.

Many people like to reminiscence about the "good ole days". Some day soon, they will be reminiscing about the "good ole days" when we were a land of laws.
4 posted on 01/14/2004 2:37:51 AM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: texastoo
My question is - Could the 15 year old qualify for one of these guest worker passes if his mother hired him to make phony IDs?
5 posted on 01/14/2004 2:41:15 AM PST by kingu (Remember: Politicians and members of the press are going to read what you write today.)
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To: kingu
The 27 year old is being held for immediate deportion, >>>>>>

No check again, held for his deportation *hearing*.....this could take months. If the Cape Cod police don't speak PORTUGEUSE, this guy might even get off.

Sheesh.....Our *new & improved* security WITHIN our borders is being breeched by teenagers.!! We need to 'close the borders' & clean house. So that INS or B.I.C.E. or

WHATEVER they *call* it these days, can do their job.
6 posted on 01/14/2004 2:53:14 AM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: kingu
My question is-Could the 15 year old qualify for one of these guest worker passes if his mother hired him to make phony IDs?

This is a job that most Americans won't do. I guess it qualifies.

7 posted on 01/14/2004 2:54:56 AM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: txdoda
Held for a hearing, and soon out of the country. I'm not sure how it is done on out there - out here, someone is generally out of the country pretty quick these days, if it gets to the hearing process.

But you're right, we need to secure our borders, and the agency formerly known as INS needs to be massively expanded for a time until the vast majority of illegals are deported. Hell, re-instate the draft, I'll put my name down for a year's service in the agency formerly known as INS.
8 posted on 01/14/2004 2:59:05 AM PST by kingu (Remember: Politicians and members of the press are going to read what you write today.)
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To: kingu
Held for a hearing, and soon out of the country. I'm not sure how it is done on out there - out here, someone is generally out of the country pretty quick these days, if it gets to the hearing process.>>>>>>


Hopefully 'they' have removed the loopholes that allowed many to appeal their deportations forever. Many times illegals are allow to remain free, & when their appeal is denied, INS *just* send them a letter. (I guess saying ,deport yourself.)

Meanwhile our list of absconders that are "identified & already ordered deported" continues to grow, because we CAN"T FIND THEM.

This 'list' (when first admitted in Jan.2002) was over 300K, 18 months later it was over 400K. Including some 80,000 convicted criminals.


Hell, re-instate the draft, I'll put my name down for a year's service in the agency formerly known as INS.>>>>>>>

Good idea, they could even call-up some semiretired vets to help. Americans are continuing to come up with great idea's to 'save' our country, & those in DC only want to give it away faster....:o(
9 posted on 01/14/2004 3:25:58 AM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: kingu
THROW THEM ALL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10 posted on 01/14/2004 4:13:18 AM PST by jocon307 ( The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: kingu
15 and 12 years old?

Oh yeah, our system is very sophisticated if a couple teenagers can defeat it.

Al Qaeda be warned! Don't mess around in the US.
11 posted on 01/14/2004 4:53:18 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: kingu
"The National Population Council reported that 9.9 million Mexicans call America home and that more than 7.82 million of those - or 79 percent - do not have U.S. citizenship. It did not break down how many had legal residence papers."

"According to a RoperASW poll from last year, 83 percent of Americans support mandatory detention and forfeiture of property for illegal immigrants, followed by deportation."

I'm one of the 83%.

If the President Bush or Tom Ridge would announce that in six months they will be paying a $50 per head bounty for each illegal alien on American soil there would be a mad rush for the borders.

A policeman in a car costs the average city about $200 an hour. Helicopters cost at least $2000 an hour with the ground crews. What is the full cost of a teacher per hour? $140.00 or there about.

If we could get illegal aliens to turn each other in, just the ones trying to slip through the net, (I know thousands would attempt it) we would save billions in law enforcement, welfare programs, unemployment, medical care, job training and schools the first year.

Do all this under Executive Order and tell the Courts to back off. This is national security!

Any employer who has employed an illegal alien more than five months from the announcement date will be fined $5000 per employee. One month later enforcement begins. This will give employers 5 months to shed the illegals and hire legally papered actual American citizens.

Then on the announced date, start in a state such as Oklahoma. Well centered, not overly populated and clean the state out. This would give Homeland, INS and Border Patrol time to install their co-agents in various court houses around the country to verify a persons paperwork, i.e.. birth certificates, hospital records, etc.

Go state to state from the epicenter sweeping out the criminals who have successfully avoided suspicion. They already had 5 months to get out, hanging around to test the system carries a SEVERE penalty. They won't be able to say they weren't warned.

Divide a state into quadrants depending on population per square mile., First arrest those whose names were turn in for the bounty. Then others suspected by local law agencies. When arrests slow down, open an adjoining quadrant.

Get caught after the selected dated and the result would be every foreign national who is not in America legally would forfeit all their belongings (houses, cars, bank accounts, etc.) and be deported within 24 hours. These forfeited belongings would then be given to local churches for distribution to the needy in that community. Another cost saver!

This enforcement would apply to illegals from every country in the world, not just Mexico.

Imagine the number of Chinese who would be taking the ship home with everything in the house, new cars, you name it would be on those ships. The thousands of Canadians who decided the USA was better than Canada would be again headed North.

How many schools could be closed? How many hospitals and state paid housing tracts? How many welfare offices? How many planned jail enlargements could be stopped for lack of need?

How many state and federal employees would find out that they have the time to actually give good service to their American customers?

Oh yes, it would be an economic shocker in the amount of taxes that could be reduced or used to actually improve something needed for American citizens, instead of illegal foreigners.

Want an approximate number of the population drop? Try 50 million+ with the majority over 30 years of age, having been illegal residents of America for over ten years.

I've always wondered how many folks are on Medicare that don't deserve it. I'll bet that would save a big chuink of money that could be used for American war veterans and citizens health problems.

Just imagine the frantic squealing from our politicians thinking of the lost votes and contributions. That would be a sideshow worth watching!

Scan the whole page for good reading!
Conservative Debate Handbook

12 posted on 01/14/2004 5:41:22 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: Prodigal Son
Oh yeah, our system is very sophisticated if a couple teenagers can defeat it.

And yet the pro-open borders side claims that immigration cannot be limited in any way, enforcement of law-breakers is impossible to do --- but there has been very little attempt to do so.

13 posted on 01/14/2004 6:32:34 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Do Brazilians get in on this illegal alien amnesty or is just for Mexicans? Because Mexicans get more consideration than other Latinos because they are mega-pests, mega-nuisances, mega-drug smugglers, mega-criminals right on our border?

Do illegal Chinese, illegal Bangladeshis (tons of them in NYC) and illegal Colombians (tons down here in FL) get in on this illegal alien gravy train?
14 posted on 01/14/2004 7:39:04 AM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: dennisw
Do Brazilians get in on this illegal alien amnesty or is just for Mexicans?

As far as I know, our president is negociating these immigration and amnesty deals with one and only one foreign leader who has nothing but the export of millions of his citizens as his goal. I think the Brazilian leader isn't very good but so far he doesn't seem as hell bent on getting rid of his citizens. I don't think we've ever seen a time in history where the leader of a country actually went about like Fox --- trying to force his people onto another government.

15 posted on 01/14/2004 7:49:46 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
So this scamnesty is for Mexicans only? Wait until the Central American nations here this!! After all, 20-25% of El Salvador lives in the USA with most in the LA area

BTW> Many illegal Brazilians are here. I see reports of them entering via the Mexican border. They love it in Massachussetts. I knew a few and they were good people but illegal as heck.
16 posted on 01/14/2004 8:01:43 AM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: dennisw
scamnesty

scamnesty . . . . very good, I like it. Lets use it.

17 posted on 01/14/2004 10:24:12 AM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: Calpernia
connections?
18 posted on 01/14/2004 12:57:03 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
Don't know; but worth cross referencing on the terror thread.
19 posted on 01/14/2004 6:00:08 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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