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Chuckling but fuming, 'normal' Moore readies another provocative film (AP kisses psycho's *ss)
MLive.com ^ | 24 January 2004 | John Flesher, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 01/24/2004 5:16:22 PM PST by MegaSilver

TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. (AP) — Michael Moore isn't the apologetic type.

Any regrets over proclaiming to a worldwide audience during last year's Academy Awards ceremony that George W. Bush was a "fictitious president ... sending us to war for fictitious reasons"? No way.

But the crusading leftist author and filmmaker does have a small confession: That rip-roaring acceptance speech after his "Bowling for Columbine" won the Oscar for best documentary almost went undelivered.

"Every bone in my body wanted to just thank them, blow them a kiss and walk off the stage," Moore confides, stirring whipped cream into a steaming cup of hot chocolate during an interview at a local bookstore. "This was my night! How many times in your life do you win an Oscar?

"And yet that good Catholic schoolboy inside me is saying, `You know, this life is not about being honored with golden statues.' ... In the end, I have to do what is right as a human being and a citizen. But I was fighting it. I'm a normal person, you know."

If there's one thing Moore wants to make clear, it's that he is normal. A regular guy. The sort who might be picked for that "Average Joe" television show.

Fair enough — at first glance. With his bespectacled, bearded face, tousled brown hair flecked with gray, jeans-and-baseball-cap wardrobe and rotund build, he'll never be mistaken for a Hollywood hunk.

But there's nothing ordinary about a formerly obscure, muckraking journalist becoming an international celebrity. Nor about having two bestselling books and an Oscar-winning film in the same year.

And not everybody can make movies that have audiences rolling in the aisles one minute and fuming with righteous indignation the next.

That delicate mixture of anger and humor is Moore's weapon of mass denunciation. In books, films, speeches and on his Web site, the 49-year-old gadfly fires rhetorical fusillades at the National Rifle Association, conservative politicians, corporate executives and assorted "stupid white men," grinning all the while.

Now he's working on another film, "Fahrenheit 9-11," due for release late this summer. As the title implies, the subject is terrorism.

It will feature Moore on a quest for answers to troubling questions — a recurring role he first assumed in "Roger & Me," the hilarious and heartbreaking 1989 tale of woe in his hometown of Flint after General Motors Corp. shuttered 11 auto manufacturing plants and laid off 33,000 workers.

True to form, his queries will be verbal whacks on the head with a two-by-four. Diplomacy isn't Moore's strong suit.

"You know the question a lot of people were asking after Sept. 11 — `Why do they hate us?' The question I want to ask is, why DON'T they hate us — and then take my camera around the world a bit and show what's done in our name."

Terrorism is wrong, Moore says. But when he's finished cataloguing misdeeds by the U.S. government and corporations, viewers will feel lucky their country hasn't drawn more attacks.

And why, he continues, are Americans so obsessed with terrorism in the first place? Sept. 11 was horrific. But the typical citizen has almost no chance of encountering terrorists.

He accuses the Bush administration of exaggerating the danger to frighten voters into giving the president another term: "It is one of the most successful lies ever perpetrated upon a people."

Such gloves-off rhetoric is one reason why Moore's critics — and they are legion — just don't get the joke. One of many Web sites devoted to him is labeled: "Michael Moore Hates America."

"He is beyond mean-spirited. He is hate-filled," said Brent Bozell, president of the conservative Media Research Center in Arlington, Va.

Nope, Moore replies. Those labels are more fairly applied to purveyors of right-wing invective such as Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly. (Fact is, they're all in the same fraternity of opinion merchants packing the bestseller lists with white-hot political screeds.)

The difference, Moore says, is he and fiery liberals such as Al Franken and Molly Ivins champion justice for the underprivileged while their conservative counterparts promote smug self-centeredness.

Besides, "We're funny. What's so funny about Ann Coulter? Even if you agree with her politically, I've never seen a conservative sit there and go, `Ho, there's a real knee-slapper!'"

Without humor, Moore says, his productions would be simply depressing. He wants audiences to come away entertained but hopping mad, asking themselves, "What am I going to do about this?"

He admires Mark Twain, Jonathan Swift, Charlie Chaplin and George Carlin — humorists with deep resentment of social and political wrongs.

"A lot of the best comedians are very angry people. They find a way to use their sense of humor sort of like a release valve on a pressure cooker. I've always been that way."

He was back in 1972, anyway. Then a high school senior in Davison, a Flint suburb, he was elected "class comic" by his peers. "He was always making cracks in class under the radar screen," recalls Jeff Gibbs, a longtime friend and collaborator.

The same year, the 18-year-old Moore got so fed up with things at school that he ran for the board of education — and won. He served a four-year term.

Moore attended college briefly and considered following his father and grandfather's footsteps to a career at GM, but decided on his first day the auto industry wasn't for him.

He worked for an alternative newspaper, the left-wing magazine Mother Jones and a Ralph Nader organization before returning home to produce "Roger & Me," a darkly comic documentary that became the prototype for his subsequent screen endeavors.

Over the next decade, he turned out three other films, had a couple of short-lived television series and wrote his first book: "Downsize This! Random Threats from an Unarmed American," a 1996 bestseller. Moore later penned another satirical work, "Stupid White Men," which stirred a tempest even before hitting the bookstores.

The book was to be published in fall 2001. But HarperCollins held off after the Sept. 11 attacks, fearing its irreverent tone and Bush-bashing would offend readers.

Amid complaints of censorship by Moore and his fans, the book finally was released in February 2002. "Stupid White Men" quickly became a bestseller and remained atop the lists last year, when it was joined by a follow-up, "Dude, Where's My Country?"

Despite their popularity, Moore's works have drawn accusations of playing fast and loose with the facts.

Spinsanity, an Internet-based watchdog that claims to sniff out misleading political rhetoric, says Moore uses "lies, distortions, and nonsensical arguments to mask cheap attacks and promote his own political agenda."

While acknowledging the occasional error, Moore bristles at suggestions that his works are flights of fantasy.

"I have a staff of researchers, and I have two lawyers consecutively go through the entire book and movie, tear it apart, try to find something wrong with it. If I say something is a fact, it is a fact."

Regardless of the medium, Moore's message has remained constant: Abetted by self-serving politicians, the rich and powerful are sticking it to the little guy and should be held accountable.

"He's not so much a pure progressive as a maverick populist," said Katrina vanden Huevel, editor of the leftist periodical The Nation. Still, she regards him as a valuable counterweight to the likes of Limbaugh.

"This is his moment," vanden Huevel said. "Scandalous corporate abuses, economic decline across the heartland ... these are his issues, and he speaks to them in humorous and effective terms."

Moore hopes so, because aside from "Fahrenheit 9-11," his top priority this year is campaigning against Bush. He drew criticism in 2000 for backing Nader, whom many Democrats blame for siphoning enough votes from Al Gore to put Bush in the White House.

No dallying with third parties this year; Moore supports Democratic hopeful Wesley Clark. He likes the retired general's views but says Clark's biggest asset is electability.

"I'm not into losing and feeling like, `We fought the good fight, we did the noble thing.' We're in a crisis. We have to remove (Bush) from office."

Bozell shudders at the thought of voters taking advice from Moore.

"He feeds a growing vein in American society ... that sees conspiracies in everything. He's a walking, talking hypocrite. His whole shtick is that he's a blue-collar working guy on a jihad against corporate America, when in fact he's made millions off corporate America."

Moore acknowledges being wealthy enough to have an apartment in New York and a home in northern Michigan's resort country. But greeting locals and signing books in the Traverse City store while downing his hot chocolate, he insists the down-to-earth guy he portrays on the movie screen remains the genuine article.

He still buys clothes at outlet stores and says much of his money goes to his projects, political candidates and other worthy causes.

"I have the same friends that I've had for decades, I'm married to the same woman that I was before. I haven't altered my life in any significant way. I think once you're working class, you're always working class."

And perfectly normal.


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A request: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, no pictures of Michael Moore. I didn't really have the best dinner this evening.
1 posted on 01/24/2004 5:16:25 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
The difference, Moore says, is he and fiery liberals such as Al Franken and Molly Ivins champion justice for the underprivileged while their conservative counterparts promote smug self-centeredness.

Riiiiiiiiight.

Besides, "We're funny. What's so funny about Ann Coulter? Even if you agree with her politically, I've never seen a conservative sit there and go, `Ho, there's a real knee-slapper!'"

In the first place, I don't know a single conservative who would talk to Michael Moore.

In the second place, I can't see that Michael Moore fans could appreciate Ann Coulter's more subtle breed of humor.

2 posted on 01/24/2004 5:19:52 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
Go here for vicious skewering of Mikey:


http://www.moorewatch.com/
3 posted on 01/24/2004 5:34:49 PM PST by annyokie (Wesley Clark: Howard Dean with medals!)
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To: MegaSilver
I was insulted that he said Ann isn't funny. Polititcal wit isn't funny? Oh, I forgot. I'm always laughing at the way Ann is putting down her opponent so subtlely they don't even catch it. I guess you have to have a brain to see the comedy.
4 posted on 01/24/2004 5:37:53 PM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance seem to have the least for my views.)
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To: MegaSilver
John Flesher: Please, Sir. Unzip your fly.

Michael Moore: Say it again! I'm funny and Ann Coulter is not!

5 posted on 01/24/2004 5:46:28 PM PST by sauropod (Graduate, Boortz Institute for Insensitivity Training)
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To: MegaSilver
"What's so funny about Ann Coulter?"

LOL.....Democrats have NO sense of humor, and they seem to be fairly stupid if they cannot catch the wit of Ann Coulter.

6 posted on 01/24/2004 5:47:19 PM PST by goodnesswins (Poverty is more about the "mental" than the "money.")
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To: MegaSilver
Terrorism is wrong, Moore says. But when he's finished cataloguing misdeeds by the U.S. government and corporations, viewers will feel lucky their country hasn't drawn more attacks.

Yes we get it Mike, you think America sucks!

I cant say what I think of that attitude here you... (fill in the blank)

7 posted on 01/24/2004 5:49:02 PM PST by mylife
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To: MegaSilver
I'd like to meet this jerks parents....so I can slap the crap out of them!
8 posted on 01/24/2004 5:49:26 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: goodnesswins
LOL.....Democrats have NO sense of humor, and they seem to be fairly stupid if they cannot catch the wit of Ann Coulter.

I can understand where they wouldn't think she was funny. She hits a bit too close to home for their likes.

9 posted on 01/24/2004 5:50:14 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: GOP_Proud
I was insulted that he said Ann isn't funny.

I'm trying to train myself to not be insulted by anything out of that man's mouth. He just doesn't hold any weight in the real world.

10 posted on 01/24/2004 5:52:07 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
"He's not so much a pure progressive as a maverick populist," said Katrina vanden Huevel, editor of the leftist periodical The Nation. Still, she regards him as a valuable counterweight to the likes of Limbaugh.

I don't care how much he eats, intellectually, he's not even in the same universe as Rush.
11 posted on 01/24/2004 5:57:09 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Appease "my-way-or-the-highway" conservatives. Build new roads.)
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To: mgist; I_be_tc; paltz; SoKatt; fishbabe; LisaMalia; 4mycountry; shuvlhed; Loose_Cannon1; ...


Please FReepmail me if you want on/off this ping list.
12 posted on 01/24/2004 6:05:56 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Appease "my-way-or-the-highway" conservatives. Build new roads.)
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To: annyokie
Whoooaaa!

I like it :-)
13 posted on 01/24/2004 6:52:36 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Happy Iraqi Independence Day!!!!)
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To: MegaSilver
I think he's right,To me funny is three middle aged virgins.
And I think extremely ugly,hygienically challenged deranged leftist are hilarious,Michael Moore,Molly Ivans and Al Franken have me rollin'in the aisles.
But that's just me.
14 posted on 01/24/2004 7:39:13 PM PST by Redcoat LI ("If you're going to shoot,shoot,don't talk" Tuco BenedictoPacifico Juan Maria Ramirez)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Thanks! Pass it around!
15 posted on 01/24/2004 7:42:37 PM PST by annyokie (Wesley Clark: Howard Dean with medals!)
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To: Arpege92
Please no. Last time someone did that to them, Michael came out.
16 posted on 01/24/2004 7:42:38 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: MegaSilver
If there's one thing Moore wants to make clear, it's that he is normal. A regular guy. The sort who might be picked for that "Average Joe" television show.

Yeah. "My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance".


17 posted on 01/24/2004 7:48:19 PM PST by mhking
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
If there's one thing Moore wants to make clear, it's that he is normal. A regular guy. The sort who might be picked for that "Average Joe" television show.

Yeah. "My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance".

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

18 posted on 01/24/2004 7:48:48 PM PST by mhking
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To: MegaSilver
How many times in your life do you win an Oscar?

Well it really doesn't matter anymore. With your Oscar, the Academy lost it's last dying ember of respectability. Not that they had that much to lose in the first place. An Oscar is now less important than an AOL disk.

His new film promises to be 100% fact free.

19 posted on 01/24/2004 7:50:12 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: MegaSilver
One of my major goals in life is to do everything politically I can to keep Democrats and other wacko liberals in a constant spin. And then watch as they blow up from internal combustion at the GOP.
20 posted on 01/24/2004 7:57:32 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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