Medical pot law gains acceptance

S.F. Chronicle ^ | January 30, 2004 | Bob Egelko

[robertpaulsen]

"if black market heroin worked on the nausea I saw my mother suffering,"

I understand.

Would you, therefore, support a proposition that would make "medical" heroin legal for (from Proposition 215) "the treatment of cancer, anorexia, AIDS, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine, or any other illness for which marijuana heroin provides relief."?

And that "Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no physician in this state shall be punished, or denied any right or privilege, for having recommended marijuana heroin to a patient for medical purposes."

If Proposition 215 were written differently -- restricting the use of marijuana for readily identifiable and confirmable diseases -- that would be one thing. But over 50% of the medical marijuana use is for "pain". Not cancer. Not AIDS. Not glaucoma. Not MS. Pain.

[Imal]

They want the money, you want your dope. I suspect most will side with the government on this.

Your use of a false personal attack betrays a contempt for the truth, and an inability to express an opinion based on its merits. You are offering nothing worth reading in your post.

I grow weary of such juvenile tactics, and they will never change my mind or the minds of others willing to think for themselves, rather than acting as willing dupes for druglords and their cronies.

Those who defend the truth don't hurl lies. Attempts to drive away those who disagree are symptomatic of those who know they are ultimately wrong. Intellectual thuggery is the calling card of Liberalism.

If you truly support law and order, then respect the Free Republic Posting Guidelines and focus on the posts, not who is posting.

[Wolfie]

I'm not talking just about federal funding of local goon sqauds. I mean cases where the local police are carrying out the wishes of their Federal masters, in direct contradiction to State law, which the locals are supposed to be sworn to uphold.

[VaBthang4]

[Stone Mountain]

Saw an episode of the JBT worship series "COPS" the other nite where a guy was stopped in a "high risk" area of the city just for being there. He had no drugs in the vehicle but $300 in cash on his person. The cops claimed legal grounds to keep the cash.

And that's just what they do on camera...

[Imal]

Emblematic of the intellectual horsepower driving the War on Drugs.

Thanks for the example.

[commonerX]

I agree, It is starting to seem the only reason Pot is illegal is so that, people who don't like pot, can clam they are superior, because they don't break they law. Therefore they must keep the law as is for their own scense of superiority. I though conservatives are for less Gov. in peoples lives and more personal responsibilty. Come on now what business is it of yours if your nieghbor is sitting at home watching a movie smoking a joint or drinking a beer. I mean if he is not hurting anyone or depriving them of the rights, who cares, I got bigger and better things to worry about.
Or is it the Governments job to see that every american lives a safe and healthy life style, by law if necessary.

[robertpaulsen]

CJ, like the loaded question?

"Marijuana should be legalized and sold like alcohol or tobacco, so it can be taxed to generate needed revenue for the state.

First, the poll is restricted to the Californicators, nice cross-section of Americana, huh? Then, in the only state that is on the verge of bankruptcy, the question is phrased to include "needed revenue".

Even then they only got 39%, which is exactly the same percentage that Nevada (another highly moral state) got when they put marijuana legalization on the ballot.

[Stone Mountain]

Would you, therefore, support a proposition that would make "medical" heroin legal for (from Proposition 215) "the treatment of cancer, anorexia, AIDS, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine, or any other illness for which marijuana heroin provides relief."?

Well, I can't speak for Lurker, but I don't have a problem with that. If a doctor makes the medical judgement that heroin would be beneficial in relieving symptoms from the above maladies, I think people should be able to obtain it.

And that "Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no physician in this state shall be punished, or denied any right or privilege, for having recommended marijuana heroin to a patient for medical purposes."

I don't have a problem with this either. No physician should be punished for recommending in good conscience, that which would alleviate the suffering of his patients.

[steve50]

And that "Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no physician in this state shall be punished, or denied any right or privilege, for having recommended marijuana heroin to a patient for medical purposes."

Doctors prescribe opiates like heroin for medical purposes all the time. What's your point?

[green iguana]

"But over 50% of the medical marijuana use is for "pain". Not cancer. Not AIDS. Not glaucoma. Not MS. Pain."

Might that be because marijuana is very effective at treating pain?

[Stone Mountain]

Is that in lieu of an actual argument?

[Stone Mountain]

But over 50% of the medical marijuana use is for "pain". Not cancer. Not AIDS. Not glaucoma. Not MS. Pain.

You have a problem with people taking legal drugs to alleviate pain?

[green iguana]

"Would you, therefore, support a proposition that would make "medical" heroin legal for (from Proposition 215) "the treatment of cancer, anorexia, AIDS, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine, or any other illness for which heroin provides relief."?"

Um, I know that they are not exactly the same as heroin, but isn't this basically already being dome with codeine and morphine, et al?

[ClintonBeGone]

Your use of a false personal attack betrays a contempt for the truth, and an inability to express an opinion based on its merits. You are offering nothing worth reading in your post.

Lighten up FRANCES. My use of 'you' was in the general sense, i.e. you who represent that side of the arguement. I'm sorry there appears to be such a lack of brain cells that that point wasn't picked up by the reader. Another reason to stay away from drugs or druggies.

[Imal]

Your response makes my point admirably.

I recommend reading my post again, especially this part:

"If you truly support law and order, then respect the Free Republic Posting Guidelines, and focus on the posts, not who is posting."

Your repeated use of personal attacks against me is your admission that you know you are wrong. It also does not recommend your opinions on any topic, including this one.

[ClintonBeGone]

PAIN KILLERS: Such as Codeine, Vicodin Darvocet which are on the rise are highly addictive and can cause many problems with here long term use.

What about just using the synthetic THC, marinol I think its called? Same effect, you just don't get to light the doob.

[ClintonBeGone]

Your repeated use of personal attacks against me is your admission that you know you are wrong. It also does not recommend your opinions on any topic, including this one.

I've never personally attacked you Imal. I have a great deal of respect for you. We may disagree, but I would name my first born after you. Hows that?

[Imal]

The thread documents our exchange.

[HELLRAISER II]

I don't know that they don't have the passion to stand up for what they beleive in, it's just that once you come out in favor of a taboo subject like this then you're alienated and put on the TO BE BUSTED LIST.