[Steve Eisenberg]

But if it comes down to the creep and the child, you mean to tell me you would rather your child not have some idea(s) what to do?!

JustPiper, I read articles on this kind of thing years ago, before the internet, so I doubt I can find any links. Anyway, these ideas for children resisting kidnappers are based on feminist ideas for how women should resist rapists. There is no body of evidence indicating it works for kids. Even if the teaching is right, studies of these programs showed that the children wildly misinterpret what they are taught.

I want the kidnappers to be scared, not my kids. This kind of program is just going to create fear because sensible children will know full well that they can't fend off an adult. Freepers of all people should know what it takes to deal with this kind of person (hint: 2nd amendment).

[JustPiper]

And you know none of these things will work because? Have you visited ChildLures? How do you protect your kids?

[marktwain]

• If the abductor shows a gun, run. No matter what the person says, keep running. There is only a slim chance they will try to shoot you. Firing a gun draws attention.

This is excellent advise. I have told this to my own kids, and my brother the peace officer to his. There have been more than one instance where two children were approached and threatened with a gun. One ran, the other complied with the threat. Only the runner survived. Running from the threat of a gun is excellent advise, especially for a child.

If the child had a gun to resist with, run to cover then shoot the person who pursues you.

Unfortunately, a great many states have legislated that children must be unarmed victims. Children in school are now not even allowed to have a pocket knife!

[LWalk18]

And what would you suggest? A stranger who is attempting to take a child is planning to kill them. Making an effort to escape is common sense- no scientific research is necessary. Better to be killed by gunshot attempting to run away (worst case scenario) then being raped, tortured, and then murdered. The only problem is getting kids to act logically while facing a gun or other force- easier said than done. But it is better than doing nothing.

[JustPiper]

Anyway, these ideas for children resisting kidnappers are based on feminist ideas for how women should resist rapists.

[2nd amendment mama]

Freepers of all people should know what it takes to deal with this kind of person (hint: 2nd amendment)

Unfortunately most of these incidents happen when no one is around to see it and children don't go around carrying a gun. Would you rather we don't teach our children because these methods "have no scientific basis". Your advice is "utter nonsense"!!!!!

[secret garden]

Self defense techniques work, whether used by children or women. They are instructed in their usage during martial arts classes. Practice is key, so the reaction becomes automatic.

[Oorang]

I am stunned by your post.

Freepers of all people should know what it takes to deal with this kind of person (hint: 2nd amendment).

I am very pro-2nd amendment. Life NRA member, annual contributor to CCRKB, SAF and others. Have concealed carry in two states, etc., etc. When it comes to 2nd amendment you are preaching to choir here. BUT, children cannot legally carry.

I want the kidnappers to be scared, not my kids

This sounds so PC it is astonishing but perhaps I am misinterpreting what you are trying to say. Kids should be scared of kidnappers. So scared that their adrenaline kicks in and they fight and scream with all their might. Would you rather they didn't fight for their lives at all?

There is no body of evidence indicating it works for kids. Even if the teaching is right, studies of these programs showed that the children wildly misinterpret what they are taught.

I understand you read this along time ago and cannot find the links. But, if these "studies" were valid I feel quite certain that they would still be out there for you to find and post or similar studies with similar results to back up your claim would be online for you to post. Until then I'm not buying it. As far as "children wildly misinterpret what they are taught" I give the average child a lot more credit than you, or these "studies" do. Children, taught properly, can learn anything whether it is math, english or self-defense techniques. Children, given half a chance, crave learning. It sounds to me like you want children to be defenseless and helpless which does not need to be the case.