State's first gay marriage: S.F. officials begin issuing licenses for same-sex pairs

The Sacramento Bee ^ | 2/12/04 | Herbert A. Sample and Steve Wiegand

[Paloma_55]

SAN FRANCISCO - Scores of gay couples were issued marriage licenses here Thursday in a move by city officials that generated both immediate promises of legal action by gay-marriage foes and tears of joy and celebratory whoops by the newly hitched.

Two days before Valentine's Day, Mayor Gavin Newsom gave the go-ahead to the county clerk to accept marriage license applications from same-gender couples....

[Paloma_55]

Gay Agenda... like a game of chess, they moved their Massachusetts' Supreme Court piece and are now positioning their US 9th Circuit piece into position...

By marrying these people AGAINST THE LAW, they are inviting a challenge in the 9th circuit which is more liberal than the Mass supreme court. They know the 9th will uphold the marriages which will demand a supreme court test.

Note; Nobody is asking the question... "WHY do homosexuals have a right to marriage?" They don't.

Marriage is not a right. It is a special recognition of a relationship that can only exist between a man and woman. The government recognizes as part of its responsibility to support things that are positive to society, much like it has a responsibility to oppose things that are detrimental to society.

EVERYONE recognizes that there is a line drawn between the existing marriage laws, and other forms of marriage that could exist if we open the doors or move the line. If we move it to allow homosexuals, who choose to behave in a particular way, what moral imperative is left to stop from moving it to allow polygamy, incest, and other social constructions that are socially unacceptable and detrimental to the long-term-interests of society?

But back to the real point here... this is a chess game and they have the pieces.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"WHY do homosexuals have a right to marriage?"

That's the wrong question, because they do have a right to marry.

What they don't have, is the legal ability to marry a person of the same sex.

If the question is framed as you framed it, the argument then shifts to the right to marry, and they argue that they are denied a right that everyone else possesses.

That's why they are framing the argument in that manner, because they already know the answer.

The real fight is to deny them the legal ability to enter into the institution known as marriage.

[MizSterious]

I'm hearing people like Ted Koppel compare the "plight" of gay couples to this country's history with slaves--and nothing could be further from the truth.

My primary concern with all this is that it will open the door to other "rights" among deviates--after gays can marry, can pedophiles claim their "rights" too? What about incest? What about polygamy? Will this country eventually legalize bestiality as Sweden has done? (shudder)

[New Perspective]

I can not believe I live during this disgusting time. I just did a search on the defination of marriage at spellcheck.com and say the new definition. Absolutely filth.

Since time began man and woman have been united, for love, for a family core, to procreate, to have children share in each parent, male and female. I know this may surprise some out there, but men and women are different. And there is a reason for that.

We now live in a society where deviancy is now rewarded. Gay couples have adopted 2, 3, and sometimes 4 children, while heterosexual MARRIED couples can not even have 1. I believe gays are just using these children as status markers for the moment. If they love these children so much, how come they find it ok to cheat these children out of a true family, a mother and a father. Not a mother OR a father, or 2 for that matter.

[kimoajax]

It seemed fitting to members of the press that a certain judge in Alabama be removed from office because he refused to follow the law. However, we need not hold our breath waiting for these officials to be removed from office for refusing to follow the law. It will never happen.

[Puppage]

Hey, IDIOT. It wasn't directed to YOU, it was directed to the POST.

Jerk.

Nice language ya have there. You must be very proud.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"However, we need not hold our breath waiting for these officials to be removed from office for refusing to follow the law."

California threw out its governor, it's up to the people to throw the politicians who are violating the law.

"Civil disobedience" is not an option for civil servants.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Then, you shouldn't have directed it at me.

My post was a direct consequence of your lack of thought.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"...it was directed to the POST."

MY post.

Jerk.

[Luis Gonzalez]

By the way.

I posted the response, then notified the Mods to remove my post, and yours, because I wanted YOU to see my post, but no one else.

[Puppage]

MY post.

Gee, why not take it a BIT more personally? I bet your great one for road rage, too. Isn't about time for you to kick your dog?

[Puppage]

...then notified the Mods to remove my post, and yours, because I wanted YOU to see my post, but no one else.

Your like the little sister I never had.

[Puppage]

Then, you shouldn't have directed it at me.

It wasn't AT YOU. Do you understand that? Do you take PERSONAL OWNERSHIP of EVERY POST? Get over yourself, you're not that important.

[claptrap]

If marriage is so sacred and you are so interested in the jackbooted thugs we have as GOVERNMENT OFFICALS enforcing
your religious laws upon people who dont paticularlly want
to live under your religious strictures maybe you should annex Idaho and create your CHURCH-STATE there!
DIVORCE seems to be accepted quite readily by you sanctimonious windbags where is the outcry when men and women get divorced and ruin their childrens lives forever?
Why dont you pluck out the logs in your own eyes before you go pointing out the specks in others.
These Gays as misdirected as they may be dont need sanctimonious hypocrites to run roughshod over them.
If your vision of this holy union is so holy why do you permit divorce?
I say enough of the holier than thou attitude on display
how about proving your holiness Ban divorce!
Using governmental entities to enforce a religious worldview
will turn around and be used against you!

[chachacha]

CLAPTRAP?

Enough said here!

Obviously with a handle like that the box of moral fiber is empty.

Yeh, go ahead do your thing.

[MizSterious]

I thought that was what Freepmail was for? If you want only one person to read something, usually Freepmail is the best option.

[MizSterious]

Good name. Fitting, you might say.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"It wasn't AT YOU. Do you understand that? Do you take PERSONAL OWNERSHIP of EVERY POST?

Let's see.

On the top it said Posted by Puppage to Luis Gonzalez, then it had a picture of Erik Estrada pointing his finger, and saying "YOU ARE A HOMO".

Tell me, if I was not to assume that you weren't directing that at me, then likewise, you shouldn't have assumed that I was calling YOU an a$$hole.

I was calling Erik Estrada an a$$hole.

How does that work for you?