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Gay wedlock would lead to worse
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 2/17/04 | GEORGE M. WEAVER

Posted on 02/17/2004 5:48:59 AM PST by JesseHousman

Legalization of same-sex marriage would be a seismic event across this culture. Nothing would ever be the same. Every young child asks his parents, "Can boys [or girls] get married to each other"? If the answer changes from "no" to "yes," homosexuality would have then achieved equal status with heterosexual conduct and marriage. This equivalence would be taught in schools, observed in the workplace and eventually imposed even on churches.

If the answer becomes "yes" there will doubtless be a dramatic increase in the incidence of homosexuality. Sexual arousal is a mystical thing, subject to conditioning. How else can one explain bisexuality, transsexuality, or those who migrate from one orientation to another? We should not underestimate the power of continued Hollywood marketing of homosexuality, the human drive for pleasure and official government approval to mold behavior in this area.

And same-sex marriage would not work. It might seem like a benign idea that would lead to more stability in homosexual relationships -- among people who, after all, are "born that way." But there is no evidence that homosexuality is genetically determined. Such relationships are inherently dysfunctional because we are not made that way. We all know that sometimes heterosexual marriage does not work either, but at least it can work and certainly provides the ideal matrix for raising children.

Moreover, it is doubtful that most homosexuals really want marriage. The mind-set appears to be abandonment of restraint, not fidelity or acceptance of a different restraint such as lifelong homosexual marriage.

By the time it is proved that same-sex marriages don't work, irreparable damage will have been done to traditional marriage, which has already been weakened by divorce and extramarital cohabitation. Damage will be compounded by the ramifications of same-sex marriage. As Georgia law presently stands, pedophilic homosexual marriages would immediately be legal if same-sex marriage were instituted today. A 50-year-old man or woman could marry a 16-year-old (and in some cases younger) boy or girl. And the very same sham constitutional privacy arguments used by the U.S. Supreme Court and the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court will be, and in some cases already have been, made for legalization of incestuous and polygamous or group marriages (including same-sex, opposite sex and bisexual varieties).

How about two men and three women? By the time all of this comes to fruition, the whole concept of marriage will be meaningless for all of us and it will be impossible to repair the damage.

Moreover, our democracy will be shattered if judges, our black-robed masters, are allowed to continue using the pretense of constitutional construction to impose their personal social agendas, without regard to the wishes of the majority.

The only solution, apart from a revolt against the judicial oligarchs, is a constitutional amendment. We must act soon.

George M. Weaver is an Atlanta attorney.


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Comment #81 Removed by Moderator

To: JesseHousman
This is the first 'slippery slope' argument against Gay Marriage that has brought up an outcome that is actually a likely next step.... The other examples oft used, like marrying a dog, don't fly. But a return to a kind of polygamy is a reasonable expected outcome of broadening the marriage definition. Why not.... If any two people can form a marriage, why not any three or four?

Yeesh.... What a carnival.
82 posted on 02/17/2004 9:35:53 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Modernman
Or that gay people are just plain weird.
83 posted on 02/17/2004 9:36:47 AM PST by jtminton (2Timothy 4:2)
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To: Hollywoodghost
Interesting note--Most of the people getting this are women.

That's because women are big on commitment, so lesbian long-term relationships tend to be very stable (and probably involve a lot of talking about feelings).

IIRC, the first couple to be "married" in San Fran were a pair of women in their 70's-80's. Good PR move- people are less likely to be threatened by a couple of old ladies.

84 posted on 02/17/2004 9:37:21 AM PST by Modernman ("When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." -Otto von Bismarck)
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To: onmyfeet
So for k-strategy reproducers, communities with a higher incidence of the homosexual gene could have a reproductive advantage over communities with a lower incidence (at least up to some cutoff value).

Maybe. At the very least, a homosexual member of the group would not be a drain on resources like, say, an infant child. The bigger point I was trying to make is that, assuming homosexuality is recessive, other non-gay members of the hunter-gatherer group would carry the recessive gene and would pass them on.

The nuclear family, consisting of mom, dad and the kids, is a recent development. For most of human history, the family consisted of a multi-generational group, including "bachelor" aunts and uncles who, for whatever reason, never had offspring.

I have no idea what primitive people thought of homosexuality.

86 posted on 02/17/2004 9:43:11 AM PST by Modernman ("When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." -Otto von Bismarck)
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To: onmyfeet
Feelings? I feel like a sandwich.

Hey, just because they're lesbians doesn't mean they don't like to shop or talk incessantly.

87 posted on 02/17/2004 9:45:06 AM PST by Modernman ("When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." -Otto von Bismarck)
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To: onmyfeet
I don't know what that word means...I'll have to get back to ya, ok?
88 posted on 02/17/2004 9:45:47 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: jtminton
Or that gay people are just plain weird.

Could be, but that doesn't explain what causes homosexuality. There are plenty of weird straight people, too.

89 posted on 02/17/2004 9:46:30 AM PST by Modernman ("When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." -Otto von Bismarck)
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To: JesseHousman
Yes, everyone is talking but is anything being done?
90 posted on 02/17/2004 9:51:42 AM PST by expatguy
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To: biblewonk
Obviously heathens are so repulsed by God and by Christians that I am fully convinced that they would commit a gay act out of defiance rather than out of really wanting to be gay.

There are clearly some people who are drawn to the breaking of certain taboos just for the thrill of it. When they cry that often heard lament, "Who would choose to be homosexual knowing that society will reject them?", the correct answer is "Perverts would."

Everyone who lives is a sinner. It's just that some of us don't revel in our sins but repent them instead.

91 posted on 02/17/2004 9:52:16 AM PST by FormerLib ("Homosexual marriage" is just another route to anarchy.)
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To: taxed2death
Just curious....could you point me to the section of the Bible that points out where execution of effeminate men and transvestites is mentioned.....perhaps I've been mis-reading my Bible all along....

I guess you missed it, but he was describing the historical practice within Moslem nations. Odd that you were try to turn it around as an attack on Christians.

How long have you been a christophobe?

93 posted on 02/17/2004 9:57:03 AM PST by FormerLib ("Homosexual marriage" is just another route to anarchy.)
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To: FormerLib
errrr, you must have me confused with someone else....;)

I am a Christian.

My Bible tells me to show people compassion and have empathy for them.

I just asked the poster a simple question. I have not recieved an answer.

When I was young, I was taught not to judge others, that God would judge all. Perhaps I'm reading from "the wrong" Bible.
94 posted on 02/17/2004 10:03:46 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: jtminton
Has stupidity become extinct?
95 posted on 02/17/2004 10:07:59 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: onmyfeet
ha, ha, ha....thanks for the heads up on that brown shower thing!!!
Wow, ya learn something every day here at FR.

:)

To each his own, I suppose....like I said in previous post, let God judge all. I think your revulsion of gay peeps living down the street from you may be a little severe. Now, if these peeps were giving each other brown showers on their front lawn, I might be inclined to take your side of the argument.

Ha, Ha, Ha...

Ciao... ;)


97 posted on 02/17/2004 10:09:08 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: onmyfeet
Gee, I never actually have beat my wife. So, no, I guess I cannot answer that question.....one cannot stop something if one has never started something.

Is this a practice you recommend?
98 posted on 02/17/2004 10:11:49 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
Perhaps I'm reading from "the wrong" Bible.

Then I will once again point out that he was describing the current state of affairs in Moslem counties. Odd how you again tried to turn it back on him as if he were the one reading a "different" Bible.

You do know that the Moslem using a different book, yes?

Does whatever Bible you read tell you to encourage people to continue in their sin, knowing where it will lead? That is neither compassion nor empathy!

As to Christians and their Bible discussing sexual morality, check Acts 15.

100 posted on 02/17/2004 10:14:16 AM PST by FormerLib ("Homosexual marriage" is just another route to anarchy.)
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