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NRA Statement About False S.1805 Rumours
National Rifle Association ^ | 10/27/2004 | National Rifle Association

Posted on 02/26/2004 11:07:51 PM PST by Mike Haas

THIS IS FROM NRA-HQ --- PLEASE CIRCULATE
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Recent Internet alerts from some "pro-Second Amendment" groups have suggested that the National Rifle Association has either accepted a compromise that would include reenactment of the 1994 Clinton Gun ban and/or the McCain-Reed gun show restrictions, or will not actively fight against their passage in the Senate. Not only are these claims completely false and ridiculous but they are also extremely counterproductive to our legislative strategy and agenda. Gun control groups are spreading the same rumors in hopes of confusing pro-gun senators as to our position in hopes of gaining their support.

The National Rifle Association led the fight in opposition to this ill-conceived ban in 1994, led the efforts to repeal the ban two years later, and is leading the fight to ensure the Clinton gun ban expires on time on September 13. From public speeches, articles in NRA publications, communications to lawmakers and the development of a website (www.ClintonGunBan.com), the National Rifle Association has been vocal and unambiguous about our position on this issue.

It is our hope that supposed "friends of the Second Amendment" will cease to provide ammunition to the enemy by disseminating this false information. Unfortunately, some of these groups seem intent on finding or creating any excuse to defeat S. 1805, perhaps because its passage has been a priority of the NRA for four years. The anti-gunners are seeking to undermine the Second Amendment and the legislative process by seeking to bankrupt firearms and ammunition manufacturers or get gun control restrictions through the courts through dozens of pending municipal lawsuits -- blaming the gun industry for the acts of criminals -- initiated by anti-gun big city mayors and greedy trial lawyers. A single judgment by a rogue judge or jury could wipe out the entire firearms industry making our gun rights worthless. Passage of S. 1805 is critical -- but not worth allowing legislation going to the President including either an extension of the Clinton gun ban or restrictions at gun shows. There will be no compromise. The only choice is a "clean" bill or no bill.

The legislative process in Congress is complex and far from perfect. Fortunately, Congress is a bicameral (two house) legislative body and both the House and Senate must agree on the same bill before enactment. While we are uncertain of the outcome of several pending anti-gun amendments in the Senate, the House is strongly pro-gun and it (or a conference committee) will not accept any anti-gun Senate-passed amendment as part of the final product to be sent to the President.

Pro-gun grassroots activists who want to advance our cause should not be distracted by misinformation and disinformation by our "friends." Instead, gun owners and sportsmen must keep our focus on the real action and contact -- by calls, e-mails, and faxes -- their two U.S. Senators urging them to vote for S. 1805 and against any and all anti-gun "poison pill" killer amendments including, but not limited to, the Clinton gun ban and gun shows. Use the "Write Your Representatives" (http://www.capwiz.com/nra/home) tool at www.NRAILA.org to contact your Senators and call them at 202-224-3121. We appreciate your active support in our cause to defend the Second Amendment and freedom itself.

National Rifle Association


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1 posted on 02/26/2004 11:07:52 PM PST by Mike Haas
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To: Mike Haas
BTTT
2 posted on 02/26/2004 11:11:58 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
3 posted on 02/26/2004 11:13:19 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mike Haas
bump
4 posted on 02/26/2004 11:13:36 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Mike Haas
Too true.

I e-mailed NRA the full text of the Boxer-Kohl amendments in PDF.
I am sure they will have them up for viewing very soon.

This will make the facts of the amendments available for all to see.

The truth is that the amendments grant at least one of the anti's fond wishes.
They give the CPSC a role in determining WHO may sell firearms, and setting standards for gun products!

This will be the thin edge of the wedge, CPSC will work vigorously to increase their role, in accordance with the anti's agenda.

Below is the pertinent language that alarms me. Not nearly so dire as an earlier post here made it appear, but bad indeed in a way that many might not realize at first glance.

I can send the full text in PDF, as an attachment, to anyone who wants it and cannot find it on-line.


"The amendment directs the Consumer Product Safety Commission to establish a consumer product safety standard for locking devices. The standard will ensure that locking devices are sufficiently difficult for children to remove, and prevent the discharge of the handgun unless the locking device has been removed.

Finally, the amendment requires the Attorney General to suspend or revoke the license of a manufacturer or dealer who violates this act, and/or fine them up to $15,000."

The Senate passed the Boxer amendment by a vote of 70-27.
5 posted on 02/26/2004 11:18:34 PM PST by Richard-SIA (Nuke the U.N!)
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To: Mike Haas
NRA Director Sen. Larry Craig's Ammunition Ban Amendment
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1086461/posts
6 posted on 02/26/2004 11:25:17 PM PST by quietolong
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To: Mike Haas
NRA 'Director' Larry Craig proposes an AMMO BAN!

now what will they say?

7 posted on 02/26/2004 11:28:02 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: GeronL
"... NRA 'Director' Larry Craig proposes an AMMO BAN!

... now what will they say?"

Aim for the face?

8 posted on 02/26/2004 11:45:50 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: Travis McGee
Ping
9 posted on 02/26/2004 11:48:21 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: The KG9 Kid
lol
10 posted on 02/26/2004 11:51:41 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: GeronL
Troubling.
11 posted on 02/26/2004 11:56:00 PM PST by Imal (Liberals support our troops by claiming their mission is immoral and their sacrifices meaningless.)
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To: philetus
Sound like Angel Shamaya at KABA is getting the NRA all worked up.

Good.

12 posted on 02/26/2004 11:57:04 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Mike Haas
someone better do some fast talking about the ammo ban and the lock legislation.
13 posted on 02/27/2004 12:47:53 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1086488/posts
Smart Guns / Foolish Legislators--The Assault Weapons Ban May Be Bush's Undoing
various FR links | 02-17-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
14 posted on 02/27/2004 1:05:30 AM PST by backhoe (What part of "Shall Not be Infringed" is so hard to understand?)
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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
15 posted on 02/27/2004 5:52:52 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Mike Haas
The word I got is Craig (R) (NRA board member) worked with Reed (D) to come up with a "Unanimous Consent Agreement" which allows a large number of gun control amendments to be offered to S.1805.

I guess I'm just not cleaver enough to understand the brilliant strategy behind all this.

16 posted on 02/27/2004 6:26:17 AM PST by MileHi
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To: Mike Haas; Travis McGee; backhoe; Joe Brower
Mike Hass, is this "letter" you posted above the official word from NRA-ILA national or just the opinion of that California NRA council?

Inquiring minds on Capitol Hill, here in DC and elsewhere, want to know. ;-)
17 posted on 02/27/2004 6:59:32 AM PST by MagnusMaximus1 (the issues of "God, guns, gays and abortion" WILL decide who wins or loses in 2004.)
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To: Richard-SIA
This is the latest from NRA stratergy.

Information posted by NRA at 9:27am Chicagotime Friday 2.27.04 to my email.


Well you gun owners may want to hold your horses as this plays out.

Here is the latest read from NRA. I received it at 9:45am chicagotime.




On Wednesday morning, the U.S. Senate began to debate S. 1805—the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" (formerly referenced as S. 659/S. 1806.) A bi-partisan 75-22 vote allowed debate to proceed, lifting the threat of a filibuster.

The debate continued late into the evening with no substantive movement on the bill and no additional votes were taken. Senators did, however, reach a "Unanimous Consent Agreement" spelling out specific amendments that would be permitted to be offered during the debate in anticipation of a final vote on the underlying measure next Tuesday.

On Thursday, the Senate reconvened and first considered was an amendment by anti-gun Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) that would require all handguns be sold with a mechanical safety device approved by the Consumer Product Safety Commission(CPSC). This amendment was then replaced with a "second degree" amendment by Sen. Herb Kohl (D-WI). The Kohl amendment is much less restrictive and also provides liability protection for gun owners. The revised amendment passed 70-27.

The Senate next debated an amendment by Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-CO) which would permit current and retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed firearms off duty in other states. Arguing hysterically against the amendment, anti-gun Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-MA) revealed his deep distrust of gun carrying even by sworn police officers. A vote on the Campbell amendment was deferred until Tuesday.

Sen. Kennedy then introduced an amendment to ban the manufacture and sale of "armor-piercing" ammunition. Kennedy, who actually condemned the .30-30 Winchester cartridge during debate, wants to institute a "performance-based" standard that would grant any future Attorney General sweeping authority to ban any center-fire ammunition, including most common-place rifle hunting ammunition. The standard proposed by Sen. Kennedy was rejected in the 1980s as overly broad and unnecessary to meet any threat posed to law enforcement officers` safety. A vote on this NRA-opposed amendment will take place Tuesday.

The Senate next debated and voted upon two amendments seeking to gut S. 1805. The first related to the D.C. sniper case, but the proposal by Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) was defeated, 56-40. A "law enforcement" exemption offered by Sen. John Corzine (D-NJ) was soundly defeated, 56 to 38.

NRA strongly opposed both amendments. One of the strengths of S. 1805 is that it adopts the same rules for all plaintiffs, no matter how sympathetic or unsympathetic, and no matter how notorious or mundane their victimization. Plaintiffs` rights should depend on settled principles of law, not on emotion or sympathy.

NRA-ILA stands totally committed to enacting S. 1805 without anti-gun amendments, and will continue to vigorously oppose any reauthorization of the 1994 Clinton gun ban and any attempt to ban gun shows.

Please continue to contact your U.S. Senators at (202) 224-3121 and urge them to support S. 1805 without any anti-gun amendments. Call ILA`s Grassroots staff at (800) 392-8683, or visit http://www.nraila.org/stoprecklesslawsuits.aspx for additional information and to utilize the "Write Your Representatives" feature to contact your U.S. Senators.

This post is to provide information to the histeria that is running rapid on the internet.

I do not support NRA, nor am I a friend of NRA. However, U suggest that you don't have all the information.
18 posted on 02/27/2004 8:04:43 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (Citizen Carry)
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To: Mike Haas
BTTT
19 posted on 02/27/2004 8:48:30 AM PST by hattend
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To: Joe Brower
The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security!

We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists and the democrats are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

20 posted on 02/27/2004 9:57:57 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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