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To: gawd
"...these people love each other like any other couple..."

I hate to put is so bluntly, but marriage is not about Love, marriage is about children, and society, and primarily the taming of men and their sex drive. In fact, it would probably be fine to let lesbians get married, but the establishment of male homosexuality as "normal" is a very bad road that we will very much rue taking.

I'm sorry, homosexuals cannot and do not have sexual intercourse, reproduction is impossible, and they cannot and do not "become one flesh". In addition to the pure and irrefutable physiology of it, the fact remains that people in general do not and will never see homosexuality as "normal". They may see it as a harmless vice, like some see gambling, or drunkeness, drug addition, topless dancing, prostitution, etc. but not as normal.

And, full disclaimer, my beloved brother was a homosexual, until he died. Of aids. Do I think contact tracing could have saved his life? You bet I think it might have.
185 posted on 02/28/2004 6:20:05 AM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: jocon307; gawd; All
Here are the actual reasons homosexual activists are pushing for marriage. Anyone with any interest in "gay" marriage owes it to themselves to read the stated reasons homosexuals themselves are pushing for this.
Hint: It ain't about holy matrimony, or loving anyone ever after.

"Homosexual activist Michelangelo Signorile, who writes periodically for The New York Times, summarizes the agenda in OUT magazine (Dec/Jan 1994):

"A middle ground might be to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society's moral codes, but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution... The most subversive action lesbian and gay men can undertake --and one that would perhaps benefit all of society--is to transform the notion of family entirely."

"It's the final tool with which to dismantle all sodomy statues, get education about homosexuality and AIDS into the public schools and in short to usher in a sea change in how society views and treats us."

Chris Crain, the editor of the Washington Blade has stated that all homosexual activists should fight for the legalization of same-sex marriage as a way of gaining passage of federal anti-discrimination laws that will provide homosexuals with federal protection for their chosen lifestyle.
Crain writes: "...any leader of any gay rights organization who is not prepared to throw the bulk of their efforts right now into the fight for marriage is squandering resources and doesn't deserve the position." (Washington Blade, August, 2003).

Andrew Sullivan, a homosexual activist writing in his book, Virtually Normal, says that once same-sex marriage is legalized, heterosexuals will have to develop a greater "understanding of the need for extramarital outlets between two men than between a man and a woman." He notes: "The truth is, homosexuals are not entirely normal; and to flatten their varied and complicated lives into a single, moralistic model is to miss what is essential and exhilarating about their otherness." (Sullivan, Virtually Normal, pp. 202-203)

Paula Ettelbrick, a law professor and homosexual activist has said: "Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so. . Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family; and in the process, transforming the very fabric of society. . We must keep our eyes on the goals of providing true alternatives to marriage and of radically reordering society's view of reality." (partially quoted in "Beyond Gay Marriage," Stanley Kurtz, The Weekly Standard, August 4, 2003)

Evan Wolfson has stated: "Isn't having the law pretend that there is only one family model that works (let alone exists) a lie? . marriage is not just about procreation-indeed is not necessarily about procreation at all. "(quoted in "What Marriage Is For," by Maggie Gallagher, The Weekly Standard, August 11, 2003)

Mitchel Raphael, editor of the Canadian homosexual magazine Fab, says: "Ambiguity is a good word for the feeling among gays about marriage. I'd be for marriage if I thought gay people would challenge and change the institution and not buy into the traditional meaning of 'till death do us part' and monogamy forever. We should be Oscar Wildes and not like everyone else watching the play." (quoted in "Now Free To Marry, Canada's Gays Say, 'Do I?'" by Clifford Krauss, The New York Times, August 31, 2003)

1972 Gay Rights Platform Demands: "Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit." [Among these demands was the elimination of all age of consent laws.]
203 posted on 02/28/2004 11:20:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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