1 posted on
02/27/2004 9:49:35 PM PST by
thestob
To: thestob
I love it, myself. People who have actually worked in the real world have much to teach, I should think. Besides, they may not have been steeped in all the political correctness that is pounded into the heads of education majors.
2 posted on
02/27/2004 9:57:55 PM PST by
basil
(Pro2A Mother's Day Rally 2004. Washington DC--BE THERE! www.2Asisters.org)
To: thestob
Will be very interesting to see how college kids handle the PCBS of the Teachers Unions et al.
4 posted on
02/27/2004 10:00:11 PM PST by
Fenris6
To: thestob
First step in being "credentialed" in California is to take the CBEST Test. This tests COLLEGE GRADUATES at a 10th grade reading level. Best thing to do for public education is to ban teacher tenure, ban teacher's unions, and shutdown teacher's colleges.
6 posted on
02/27/2004 10:08:33 PM PST by
rottndog
(UPHOLD SEPERATION OF SCHOOL AND STATE!)
To: thestob
They claimed they wanted to do this about 18 years ago but then would only allow minority applicants to teach.
7 posted on
02/27/2004 10:12:07 PM PST by
secret garden
(Go Predators! Go Spurs!)
To: thestob
BUT BUT BUT,, these teachers have not yet been indoctrinated with the communist GOALS 2000 agenda!!
8 posted on
02/27/2004 10:33:30 PM PST by
GeronL
(http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
To: thestob
I'm not sure how great an idea this really is. I'm sure everyone who's attended college, especially the larger schools, have had teachers or "grad assitents" who knew their subject matter quite well, but couldn't teach it worth a darn.
The US military sends virtually all of it's instructors to special training, some fairly short, others not so short, before they let them teach. Even the DI's/TI's go to instructor school before they let them put on the Smokey the bear hat.
Fact is, in Texas, you cannot get an undergraduate degree in teaching. You get a degree in something else, with a "minor" in teaching, which consists mostly in "how to teach", although for math, especially elementary math, they end up teaching a fair amount of subject matter as well. Texas already has alternative certification, that at least gets the prospective teacher some training in teaching, usually the summer before they start, and then continuing in "summer school" and "night school". The husband of a friend/coworker of my wife just finished such a program, although he did take quite a few of the required courses before getting into the program, so that he wasn't limited to the districts that sponsor the alternative certification.
The biggest problems in education today are the result of over politicization and bureaucratization. Time was when the only "higher authority" than the school district superintendent was a county school superintendent, and then only for the really small districts, the larger "independent" ones did not answer to the country superintendent. Then the states got involved, and now the federal department of education. All those upper levels of management require paperwork, which comes down on the teachers, taking up time they should be spending with the kids or planing.
11 posted on
02/27/2004 11:04:46 PM PST by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: thestob
about three years ago a teacher was at a party and talking with a group of people when, annual reviews became the topic. The teacher was amazed to learn that most people in the private sector have to face a review once or twice a year. When asked how often in his 15 year career he had had a review his answer was "Never". This is an example of how out of touch with the "real world" our education system can be in some of it's programs.
14 posted on
02/28/2004 4:43:17 AM PST by
q_an_a
To: thestob
If the "real" teachers don't like it, they should leave.
15 posted on
02/28/2004 6:36:32 AM PST by
TaxRelief
(March 20. Fayetteville. FReep 'til you drop.)
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