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Still hoping for Hillary - fans of former first lady's aren't giving up presidential dream
The Dallas Morning News ^ | February 28, 2004 | By TODD J. GILLMAN / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 02/28/2004 8:55:33 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


Still hoping for Hillary

Despite Kerry's wave of popularity, fans of former first lady's aren't giving up presidential dream

09:41 PM CST on Friday, February 27, 2004

By TODD J. GILLMAN / The Dallas Morning News

WASHINGTON – No one knows whether Hillary Rodham Clinton will feel a pang of regret when New York Democrats cast ballots for president in Tuesday's primary.

The only first lady elected to the Senate decided to sit out the race this year, but the speculation never goes away.

"Everything she's done has turned to gold," said Mario Cuomo, the former New York governor. "You have to concede that she is the most popular Democrat in the country."

And the most unpopular, too – besides her husband.

George W. Bush used to say he inherited half his dad's friends and all his enemies. Mrs. Clinton's burden includes the Clinton-haters that sprang up during her husband's eight years as president. She remains a favorite punching bag on conservative talk radio and a staple villain in GOP fund-raising solicitations.

Six months ago, when President Bush looked unbeatable, some Democrats and pundits were already looking forward to Hillary in '08. But with the president slipping in polls and Democrats united and energized over the prospect of beating him, Mrs. Clinton is somewhat forgotten. Her home state is expected to give front-runner John Kerry a comfortable victory Tuesday. And she no longer even tops polls of Democrats' favorite vice presidential picks; that honor falls to John Edwards.

If Mr. Bush loses, his Democratic conqueror would almost certainly run again in four years, so Mrs. Clinton's candidacy could be pushed back to 2012. But die-hard activists like Bob Kunst are clinging to their Hillary hopes for this fall.

The Miami Beach Democrat started a group called Hillary Now and has spent the last six months urging her to take on Mr. Bush. In the last few days, he has flown to eight states, trying to promote her as a write-in candidate and hoping to force a floor fight at the party convention this summer.

"We see Hillary as the only candidate that can beat Bush," said Mr. Kunst. "She's been fighting the right wing for 10 years. She'd get an 80 percent turnout."

Using her talents

Mrs. Clinton has done nothing to encourage the effort, and she's stayed neutral in the primaries, vowing to put her talents and stardom to work for the nominee.

Instead, she's building a presidential resumé. After just three years in the Senate, she's become a leading Democratic voice on foreign policy, homeland security and economic issues, with a reputation for doing her homework and generating headlines with regular critiques of the Bush administration.

More important, she's gathering up important chits as a rock star on the fund-raising circuit.

When the Iowa party threw a dinner last November to raise money and showcase the nine Democratic presidential contenders, sales were slow – until Mrs. Clinton agreed to speak. Tickets disappeared in two days, and her thunderous reception nearly overshadowed the candidates.

At "Whitehaven," her five-bedroom home near the Italian Embassy in Washington, she sometimes hosts a half-dozen events a month. One pundit called it a fund-raising "conveyor belt."

But all that doesn't necessarily mean she's the kingmaker in the family, the one presidential candidates court for advice and influence.

"I think it's the former president who's the magnet for that," said John Podesta, former chief of staff to Mr. Clinton and now president of the American Majority Institute, a Democratic think tank.

Still, he thinks her time will come.

"She has tremendous support and allegiance around the country from people who would like to see her run for president. Most people thought this wasn't the year," Mr. Podesta said.

Realistic prospect

Marie Wilson, president of the Ms. Foundation for Women and of the White House Project, whose mission is helping women reach the top of the political ladder, credits Mrs. Clinton for making a woman in the Oval Office a realistic prospect for many voters.

"You cannot hear her right now without thinking 'president,' " Ms. Wilson said. "We know she likes to have influence. We know that she cares about these issues. I really don't know if she wants to be president."

"No" would be fine with Dianne Thompson, president of the National Federation of Republican Women.

"Do I think a woman could be president? Yes, I do. ... It ain't gonna be Hillary," she said. "To me, she's just playing off the popularity of her husband. I don't think she's real or true, and it irritates the dog out of me that we're living off some man who embarrassed the country."

Clinton aides didn't respond to interview requests. And this week, after a foreign policy speech in Washington, the senator smiled broadly and greeted a reporter – until presidential plans were mentioned. She quickly turned and kept walking.

This month, NBC's Katie Couric asked Mrs. Clinton if she hopes that someday – perhaps even in 2008 – there might be a first gentleman in the White House instead of a first lady? The senator laughed. "Oh, I have no idea. I have no idea."

In Texas, state Democratic Chairman Charles Soechting called her "one of my favorite Democrats" and said that "down the road" she'd be hard to beat for the nomination. "Anybody that doesn't recognize the value, the intellect and what she can do would just have to be blind to the reality of politics," he said.

Most pundits agree that while she's at a crest of popularity within her party, time is on her side.

"The moment she decides she wants it, it won't be hard for her to pull together a national organization," said Debbie Walsh, director of the Center for American Women and Politics at Rutgers University.

2006 re-election

First, she'll have to survive a 2006 re-election contest. The most recent Marist College survey showed her slightly behind in a hypothetical match with former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, who dropped out of the 2000 Senate race after developing prostate cancer, and tied with another Republican, Gov. George Pataki.

If she does set her eyes on the White House, she'll run smack into an electorate as polarized about her as about her husband or President Bush.

"There's not a whole lot of uncertainty about her," said Marist polling institute director Lee Miringoff. "You put her into any tossup and the 'undecided' just vanishes. This is the love-hate relationship."

Mr. Cuomo noted that even if Mrs. Clinton has to wait until 2012, she'll only be 65 – younger than Ronald Reagan when he took office.

"She'll be young and strong," Mr. Cuomo said. "She'll still be the senator. She'll still be writing books. She's gonna be stronger, not weaker."

Staff writer Juliet Macur in Dallas contributed to this report.

E-mail tgillman@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/022804dnpolhillary.236be.html


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2004; beech; clintoon; drafthillary; hillary; hillaryclinton; hitlery
Run, Hillary, run !


1 posted on 02/28/2004 8:55:34 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: autoresponder; PhilDragoo; Liz; onyx; nicmarlo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; MEG33; Grampa Dave; maxwell; ..
Run, Hillary, run !

"Everything she's done has turned to gold," said Mario Cuomo, the former New York governor. "You have to concede that she is the most popular Democrat in the country."


2 posted on 02/28/2004 8:56:08 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
This month, NBC's Katie Couric asked Mrs. Clinton if she hopes that someday – perhaps even in 2008 – there might be a first gentleman in the White House instead of a first lady? The senator laughed. "Oh, I have no idea. I have no idea."

I'm having a Mylanta moment.

3 posted on 02/28/2004 9:10:36 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Still, he thinks her time will come.

We can only hope.


4 posted on 02/28/2004 9:17:14 AM PST by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: unixfox
bump...run hillary run
5 posted on 02/28/2004 9:20:01 AM PST by metoooo
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To: MeekOneGOP
The most popular Democrat because she can raise the most money. What an accomplishment. The leader of fools and their money.

The only hope she has to run this year is to miss the primaries completely and step in at the last minute.
6 posted on 02/28/2004 9:53:55 AM PST by Abynormal
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To: metoooo
Kerry is only in the race because they needed someone to stop Dean quickly. IMHO Kerry knows he's a loser and is only temporary - he will move over when Hillary says it's time.
7 posted on 02/28/2004 9:54:15 AM PST by afz400
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To: MeekOneGOP
In case anyone is interested, www.hillary.org is up for sale. Would be great if a conservative bought it! Bwahahahaha...
8 posted on 02/28/2004 9:55:50 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Abynormal
There are some folks that think that is exactly what may happen.

I guess I'll believe it when I see it, but wouldn't be surprise by anything
THAT witch and the 'RATS might do.

After all, we're talking about the Democrat 'Party' here ...


9 posted on 02/28/2004 10:10:34 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: Bon mots
haha ! That's funny.

From that website, near the top ...

U.S. men's magazine names 
Hillary Clinton one of 
25 'toughest guys'
It's the first time Men's Journal has put a woman on the list...


10 posted on 02/28/2004 10:16:05 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Now that the liberals have pronounced Hinckley cured, is it all right to hope she wins and Scorcese casts Jodi foster in another movie?
11 posted on 02/28/2004 10:37:32 AM PST by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Kerry is so far from a "wave of popularity" it's absurd to even construct such a sentence.

He's already on the downslope.

Hillary will be the nominee on November 2, 2004-I guarantee it.

12 posted on 02/28/2004 10:40:07 AM PST by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
"Everything she's done has turned to gold," said Mario Cuomo, the former New York governor. "

Like what, Mario? Like her sterling endorsements for Democrats like Grey Davis and Walter Mondale?

13 posted on 02/28/2004 10:43:40 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
Mario must've forgot Hitlery's secretive heathcare fiasco and all the other disgraceful scandals. The only thing she turned to gold was her bank account.
14 posted on 02/28/2004 12:06:27 PM PST by AF68
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To: MeekOneGOP
"Everything she's done has turned to gold," said Mario Cuomo, the former New York governor.

Yup, her 'National Health Plan' was PURE GOLD!!

15 posted on 02/28/2004 3:30:29 PM PST by potlatch ( Frankly, Scallop, I Don't Give a Clam)
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To: potlatch
ha ! Isn't that the truth !? ...

16 posted on 02/28/2004 4:19:00 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Das Butch mit Ickes und McAuliffe.

17 posted on 02/28/2004 5:34:16 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: MeekOneGOP
LOL, they aren't telling us anything we didn't already know!
18 posted on 02/28/2004 5:51:44 PM PST by potlatch ( Frankly, Scallop, I Don't Give a Clam)
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