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Middle East Engaged in War Between Extremists, Moderates
American Forces Press Service ^ | March 3, 2004 | By Jim Garamone

Posted on 03/03/2004 5:50:58 PM PST by Calpernia

The coalition against terrorists is engaged in a war to ensure the will of the many prevails against the wishes of a few, said Defense Department leaders before the House Armed Services Committee today.

Army Gen. John Abizaid, commander of U.S. Central Command, and Peter Rodman, assistant defense secretary for international security affairs, told the representatives that the recent attacks in Baghdad and Karbala underscore the danger still facing the coalition in the region.

Attacks March 2 against Shiia pilgrims killed 117 and wounded 500. Abizaid said the attacks were the responsibility of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a terrorist affiliated with al Qaeda. "These attacks are despicable, and they show the clear lie of the idea that Zarqawi, Osama bin Laden, (bin Laden lieutenant Ayman al-Zawahari) and their like are fighting for Islam," Abizaid said. "They are the enemies of Islam. They have killed more Muslims in the past month than anybody could ever imagine, for no vision other than to cause destruction and to cause civil war to take place in Iraq."

Abizaid has a number of challenges in his area of operations. In addition to operations in Iraq, he also commands troops involved in counterinsurgency operations in Afghanistan and a joint task force operating in the Horn of Africa. He said commanders and troops in all three regions are facing difficult challenges caused by extremists. "Despite that, I'm very optimistic that we have the troops, the equipment, and the necessary will to fight our way through to a good conclusion, as we maintain our patience, our tenacity, and our courage," he said.

The general said if the terrorists are successful in Iraq, it could result in the "Talibanization" of the Middle East. "The vast, vast majority of the people in the Middle East do not want that to happen, and they join us in this struggle against these extremists," he said.

Abizaid stressed the war in not one just for stabilization, but a fight "about extremism vs. moderation. It's a fight about the ideas of free men vs. those who would enslave people."

Rodman said the U.S. strategy in the region is to "bolster our friends, help our friends, help promote the people who share our values or who come close to our values of moderation and peace, and help them in their struggle against the extremists."

The tragic attacks against moderation are disturbing, Rodman said, and should concern all, but the most important aspect in Afghanistan and Iraq is the political process -- "the remarkable project of political construction that is going on, and (that) I would say (is) making remarkable progress in both places."

In Afghanistan, the Loya Jirga constructed a new constitution, and elections are set for June.

In Iraq, the Iraqi Governing Council agreed on the transitional administrative law. Rodman said that law – which will serve as the basis for governing Iraq once sovereignty is returned June 30 – is a remarkable example of "political compromise, political coexistence being demonstrated by all of the moderate Iraqis that we have been working with since liberation."

Terrorists trying to prevent democracy aren't the story, Rodman said. "The real story is not that there are people trying to derail this process," he said. "The real story is that this process is moving forward regardless."

Abizaid said far more people are trying to hold Iraq together than are trying to tear it apart. "I think that there is a much greater chance that Iraq will emerge through this political process as a stable and modern state that is well represented in the community of nations as a responsible state," he said. "I am optimistic that we have a chance, but it is not a 100 percent chance."

The general said that as sovereignty nears, incidents of violence almost certainly will grow. "And it will be the mark of our success as to our willingness to stay the course and our ability to build Iraqi security institutions that are willing to fight for their own freedom and their own survival," he said. "At the end of the day, it will be Iraqis that make Iraq free, not Americans."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alzarqawi; armedservices; baghdad; binladen; centralcommand; civilwar; coalition; committee; genabizaid; isa; karbala; obl; osama; peterrodman; shiia; terrorists; war
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1 posted on 03/03/2004 5:51:01 PM PST by Calpernia
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To: MJY1288; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; Jessamine; ...
Pro Military, Pro Coalition, Pro de-Baathification News!

Abizaid has a number of challenges in his area of operations. In addition to operations in Iraq, he also commands troops involved in counterinsurgency operations in Afghanistan and a joint task force operating in the Horn of Africa. He said commanders and troops in all three regions are facing difficult challenges caused by extremists. "Despite that, I'm very optimistic that we have the troops, the equipment, and the necessary will to fight our way through to a good conclusion, as we maintain our patience, our tenacity, and our courage," he said.

Private Mail to be added to or removed from the GNFI (or Pro-Coalition) ping list.

2 posted on 03/03/2004 5:52:38 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Calpernia; Dog; Cap Huff; Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge; BOBTHENAILER; swarthyguy
Just posted this:

U.S. Links Jordan Militant to Iraq Blasts

3 posted on 03/03/2004 6:22:56 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Palestinians again... Such friendly folks. We better rush the next $20,000,000 State Department lottery ticket to them, they must be low on explosives again.
4 posted on 03/03/2004 9:06:36 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Calpernia; Salem
The hidden core to this story is that the Palestinians have taken over the upper half of Jordan, forcing the King and his family to relocate down in Aquaba Jordan. The constant influx of money from Saudi Arabia, the EU and the US have strengthened the power of the Palestinian "militants" so much that they are the dominant terrorist force in the entire Middle East.

What is very strange is that we have sent Arafat $120,000,000 in the first two months of this year and are rushing another $20,000,000 bucks to them this month due to a "fiscal emergency".

The very people we are fighting with our troops in Iraq, we are funding at their base in Palestine! It is such a strange thing to do, I really do not understand what is going on.

The amount of money that the US has donated to Hamas, Hizbulla and Islamic Jihad through Arafat is equal to the entire Gross National Product of the PLO controlled Peusedo State before the intifada war began. That means Arafat could pay all salarys of the millions of Arabs himself just from the American donations and still have the greater portion of the Saudi and EU cash for his army's expansion and supply.

Now the State Department is not fools or ignorant, they have the Bank paper work captured by the Israeli Government showing the West Bank towns that Arafat is in control of is funding the terrorist infrastructure in Europe and America, some was even marked as payment to Suicide Bombers in the US. Since those attacks have not happened yet, it clearly shows that Arafat has placed agents inside the US. But still we fund them, and after Israel confiscated the funding for the American moles, the State Department declared the replacement money must be sent immediately.

Some one is playing both ends to a greater means. What is so important about keeping this terror war going that we are willing to spend billions fighting a war that we spend hundreds of millions paying people to fight?

The net result is this, we are going bankrupt, our military is even further depleted of supplies as we move our armies off shore, and we are invalidating the Constitution in the name of security we are paying to insure is kept threatened.

That this is what is happening all can see, but what is the motive for all this incredible con game? Why do we force Israel to harbor the HQ of world terrorism instead of just arresting Arafat for the killing of hundreds of Americans?

Something stinks in Washington.

5 posted on 03/03/2004 9:30:52 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
Do you have a link you can post to show the monies we send to Arafat American In Israel?
6 posted on 03/03/2004 9:50:50 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Calpernia
No single link, just dozens of news articles, all available here. Clintoon set up an educational fund to channel 100 million a year to "education" of Arafat's "children" when Congress blocked funding Arafat for a short while. There are dozens of ways we support the PLO.

Do you really want me to do a google search for you? You might learn more if you do it for yourself. If this is about making me work to prove the obvious that you will not read anyway I am not interested. But if you are truely interested I am willing to work for you a bit, though my time is precious to me.

I agree that anybody can interpret anything any way they want, after all many liberals think giving cash to terrorists makes peace. But I have read the Qu'ran and the Hadith a few times and it is pretty hard to think that being commanded to make war on your neighbors, torture and kill them if they do not submit to your rule is moderate or possibly a call to raising oneself to a new spiritual level.

Your inference of that is what makes me question your demand for links to what is public knowledge. You do not do much reading for yourself I suspect.
7 posted on 03/03/2004 11:04:11 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Calpernia
Nice homepage. Welcome to Freeper. Regan's quote is quite on topic for what I posted eh?
8 posted on 03/03/2004 11:05:53 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Calpernia
We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists and the democrats are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

9 posted on 03/04/2004 7:12:14 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: American in Israel
Welcome to FR? Uh thanks for the DELAYED welcome.
10 posted on 03/04/2004 11:16:16 AM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: American in Israel
No, I don't need you to do a search FOR me. I'm went right to the USAid.org site. I don't see the information you are referencing. I do however see several poorly sourced liberal rags that supports your statements though.
11 posted on 03/04/2004 11:19:43 AM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: American in Israel
You know and I know that protection of the Saudis has been one of the salient and key features of our war on a tactic.
12 posted on 03/04/2004 11:37:20 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Calpernia
Your welcome.
13 posted on 03/04/2004 1:41:11 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Calpernia
Search a bit harder. Look up the official US government Aid reports to the PLO or what it is called now the Palestinian Authority. But I agree, most State Department Reports are poorly written liberal rags...
14 posted on 03/04/2004 1:42:58 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
I did my search. I don't see what you said on the .GOV site.

You made the statements. I'm asking you to source it.
15 posted on 03/04/2004 1:44:42 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Calpernia
RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) - The United States is using political and financial "blackmail" to pressure the Palestinians to arrest those behind the deadly bombing of an American diplomatic convoy in the Gaza Strip, a top adviser to Yasser Arafat said Wednesday.
Jibril Rajoub, a senior security adviser to the Palestinian leader, said Washington has threatened to disengage from peacemaking and stop U.S. aid to the Palestinians, and has pressured other nations to withhold funding, unless those responsible for the Oct. 15 roadside blast are found.

The bomb ripped apart a diplomatic car in the Gaza Strip, killing three American security guards.

"You know that the Americans stopped their involvement (in funding and in the peace process) waiting for the results of the investigation," Rajoub told foreign reporters. "I think that this is blackmail."

How awful us Americans are, why we threaten to stop paying them just because they kill us. Down right extortion. We should be ashamed and give them even more money! Whats a self respecting terrorist to do? GET A JOB?!

16 posted on 03/04/2004 1:55:52 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Calpernia
There, I sourced the payments to the Palestinians from their own mouth showing that they are terrorists, and that we are funding them.

I hardly think of the Palestinians as liberals, happy now?
17 posted on 03/04/2004 1:57:48 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
Give me the URL to the information from the source.
18 posted on 03/04/2004 2:00:53 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Calpernia
But if you insist on a link, Here is one from the Palestinian GOV sites. Palestinians complain of Blackmail.

Imagine that, having to say terrorism is bad for a paltry 1.3 Billion dollars or TWO YEARS OF GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT!

This is just one form of aid, billions of dollars are being funneled into the hands of Arafat in as many ways as can be to help hide the support of the Biggest terrorist State on the face of the earth.

Now check how many minutes it took me to search this stuff out. Not a hard job. You want to know what is going on? Follow the money...

Now goodnight, it is midnight here and I got to go to work in the morning, I do not have the fat tax wallet of Uncle Sam to feed from like the Pali's do. Must be rough getting paid twice what you can make in a year at a real job just for being "disadvantaged" by having to kill Jews for a living.

19 posted on 03/04/2004 2:05:50 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
Ten minutes flat, not bad google is amazing!!!
20 posted on 03/04/2004 2:06:52 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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