[GailA]

I've got a feeling they were a lot closer than hanoi jane and hanoi john have stated. They doth protest to much. And who would take the word of known liars? I sure wouldn't. Of course the demonRATS would believe the devil himself if it would oust Dubya for them.

[secretagent]

Known liars...

I can't think of a single deliberate lie from either Fonda or Kerry. I may have forgot them, or not registered the lies.

Hugely wrong, yes. But I don't see conscious liars yet.