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Americans Drop Out of Labor Force, Posing Risks for Bush, Fed
Bloomberg ^ | March 8, 2004 | Simon Kennedy and Craig Torres

Posted on 03/08/2004 12:50:02 AM PST by sarcasm

Edited on 07/19/2004 2:13:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

March 8 (Bloomberg) -- Anthony Whitmore lost his job as a die press operator at Midland Steel Products in Cleveland 10 months ago and holds little hope of finding work. In Chester, Pennsylvania, Chris Rabzak, a former aerospace engineer with a law degree, is stretching out his master's program in business administration rather than jumping into the labor market.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jobs; mediashillsforkerry; thebuseconomy; unemploymentrate
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1 posted on 03/08/2004 12:50:03 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
How do you drop out of food, shelter and clothing? How are all of these people living?
2 posted on 03/08/2004 12:58:14 AM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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To: sarcasm

Unemployment Rate

The unemployment rate is determined by a telephone poll of 60,000 households each month. They ask a few simple questions. Do You Have job?, If not - Are you looking for a job? and if your not and not you are considered "not in labor force".

I have never been polled, no-one I know has ever been polled.

60,000 a month means 720,000 per year and no-one I know has ever been called in my entire life. Howabout you???

3 posted on 03/08/2004 1:06:36 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: Texasforever
It really does not take much to stay alive in the USA at this time. Most folks have to "lower their expectations", a nice euphemism, but a very little prudence is needed to stay reasonably warm and fed.

The situation could easily become unpleasant politically, though. Hillary is waiting, Shelob in her lair.

Fixing the situation is not trivial. "Treasury Secretary John Snow, who in October said he would ``stake my reputation'' on a pickup in job growth by Christmas..." Well, Snow is an idiot.

Lots of hubris to repent before this is over. The economists are ivory tower fools. Well, random processes revert to the mean.
4 posted on 03/08/2004 1:24:33 AM PST by Iris7 (Lies are to deceive the enemy. All you lie to, especially yourself, are your enemies.)
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To: GeronL
Pollster: "Are you currently employed?"

Mrs. Carol Brady: "No"

Pollster: "Are you currently looking for employment?"

Mrs. Carol Brady: "No"


NY Times Headline: "Mother of Six Too Discouraged to Look For Work; Bush White House Refuses Comment"
5 posted on 03/08/2004 1:25:53 AM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: GeronL
60,000 a month means 720,000 per year and no-one I know has ever been called in my entire life. Howabout you???

I understand that they use the same 60,000 households every month.

6 posted on 03/08/2004 1:27:37 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: ambrose
Dallas Morning Snooze: "Irving white guy forced out of labor pool" (Didn't look for work)
7 posted on 03/08/2004 1:27:40 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: sarcasm
?????????

Thats even worse!!

Its not like Democrats wouldn't lie to hurt Bush. We KNOW they will.

8 posted on 03/08/2004 1:28:22 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: Iris7
Look. 5.6% employment is historically low over the last 50 years, ESPECIALLY when factoring in the two income households. This entire "issue" reminds me of homelessness. The homeless disappear when Democrats are in and then they magically reappear when the GOP is in.
9 posted on 03/08/2004 1:29:28 AM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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To: GeronL
It's a grand conspiracy?
10 posted on 03/08/2004 1:30:26 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
It's a grand conspiracy?

No it is piss poor reporting. Every darn one of the "drop out" threads is anecdotal. The media doesn't like good news so they manufacture some bad news by talking to people that prefer being professional students to getting off their butts and finding a job. I liked college too but I grew out of it.

11 posted on 03/08/2004 1:35:36 AM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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To: sarcasm; Howlin
Well. I guess this means:

5.6% could be off by 2% in either direction

*snicker*

Goodnight everybody!!!!!!! You've been a good crowd... quiet but good!!

12 posted on 03/08/2004 1:35:42 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: Texasforever
Its a government poll of a group of 60,000... evidently the same 60,000... give or take a few...
13 posted on 03/08/2004 1:36:29 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: sarcasm
Really odd story. Employment in the US is at an all time high. 138.9 million workers. 1.5 million more than when Bush took office.

Story have an agenda, no way. That Bloomberg guy is a straight shooter. On second thought ....
14 posted on 03/08/2004 1:38:16 AM PST by snooker ( You can drag a 'botox gigolo' through a swamp, and some dumb gator will always bite.)
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In Chester, Pennsylvania, Chris Rabzak, a former aerospace engineer with a law degree, is stretching out his master's program in business administration rather than jumping into the labor market. ``Every month some economist comes out and says that next month or next year things will get better -- I don't believe them anymore,'' said Rabzak, 36.

Looks, to me, like this guy is a "professional student". He's an engineer, with a law degree, currently "stretching out" his MBA. Yep, it's the president's fault he isn't working.(sarcasm)

15 posted on 03/08/2004 1:43:04 AM PST by Clink (Christianity-Hate the sin, love the sinner. Islam-Hate the sin, kill the sinner.)
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To: snooker
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1994 66.6 66.6 66.5 66.5 66.6 66.4 66.4 66.6 66.6 66.7 66.7 66.7  
1995 66.8 66.8 66.7 66.9 66.5 66.5 66.6 66.6 66.6 66.6 66.5 66.4  
1996 66.4 66.6 66.6 66.7 66.7 66.7 66.9 66.7 66.9 67.0 67.0 67.0  
1997 67.0 66.9 67.1 67.1 67.1 67.1 67.2 67.2 67.1 67.1 67.2 67.2  
1998 67.1 67.1 67.1 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.2 67.2 67.1 67.2  
1999 67.2 67.2 67.0 67.1 67.1 67.1 67.1 67.0 67.0 67.0 67.1 67.1  
2000 67.3 67.3 67.2 67.3 67.1 67.1 66.9 67.0 66.9 66.9 66.9 67.0  
2001 67.2 67.1 67.1 66.9 66.7 66.7 66.8 66.6 66.8 66.8 66.7 66.7  
2002 66.4 66.7 66.6 66.7 66.7 66.6 66.6 66.6 66.8 66.6 66.4 66.4  
2003 66.3 66.3 66.2 66.4 66.3 66.5 66.3 66.2 66.1 66.2 66.2 66.0  
2004 66.1 65.9                      

16 posted on 03/08/2004 1:43:29 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1092501/posts
18 posted on 03/08/2004 1:55:56 AM PST by snooker ( You can drag a 'botox gigolo' through a swamp, and some dumb gator will always bite.)
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To: snooker
That doesn't show labor force participation.
19 posted on 03/08/2004 2:01:30 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Where do these people go when they are out of work and the democrats are in power? Do they disappear as do the homeless?
20 posted on 03/08/2004 2:04:33 AM PST by cynicom
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