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India defends job movement...Prime minister says outsourcing will create work in U.S.

Posted on 03/12/2004 11:41:29 PM PST by lewislynn

March 13, 2004, 12:03AM

India defends job movement

Prime minister says outsourcing will create work in U.S.

Associated Press

NEW DELHI — India's prime minister on Friday defended job outsourcing to India, saying that it would eventually create more employment in the United States, not less.

Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's mention of what he called the "strange controversies" generated over the issue came days after remarks critical of India by U.S. Trade Representative Robert Zoellick.

On Tuesday, Zoellick told the U.S. Senate Finance Committee that India has no right to oppose U.S. curbs on outsourcing because it maintains "one of the most closed economies in the world."

Outsourcing is the relocation of American jobs to lower-paid workers in different parts of the world. India has been one of the biggest winners of the process, which has created an outcry in the United States.

U.S. and other Western countries have hired about 170,000 workers in India over the past few years for jobs such as payroll accounting, telemarketing and customer support services.

The figure is expected to reach 1.1 million by 2008, industry groups say.

"Outsourcing makes businesses more competitive, increasing their exports and their profits and placing more investment surpluses in their hands which can be deployed to make more jobs," Vajpayee said.

"The world has spent the last decade trying to make sensible economics prevail over the temptation for short-term political gains," he said, addressing business leaders.

India's government says the United States should not lecture New Delhi about opening its markets when it is trying to block outsourcing.

"The very process of liberalization, on which we have been lectured for so many years, has created competitive skills which are available for utilization by business everywhere," Vajpayee said. "Outsourcing is a natural consequence of this process."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: india; outsourcing; trade
India's government says the United States should not lecture New Delhi about opening its markets when it is trying to block outsourcing.

HUH?

"Outsourcing is a natural consequence of this process."

Be careful what you wish for. If American businesses outsourcing to other countries don't have allegiance to America, they sure as hell won't have any for India. India is the beginning of our IT outsourcing to a low wage country, not the end.

India obviously isn't capable of creating their own wealth and may someday find themselves sucking hind tit..

1 posted on 03/12/2004 11:41:30 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: lewislynn
Prime minister says outsourcing will create work in U.S.

This must fall under the "Ignorance is Strength" category...

2 posted on 03/12/2004 11:43:46 PM PST by Prime Choice (Hm? No, my powers can only be used for Good.)
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To: lewislynn
It'll create a few $8/hr jobs sure. Can't argue with their logic.
3 posted on 03/12/2004 11:43:59 PM PST by Monty22
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To: lewislynn
India's prime minister on Friday defended job outsourcing to India, saying that it would eventually create more employment in the United States, not less.
Eventually? Up until recently they were trying to tell us it has already created more jobs. That's the problem with lying, it's hard to keep all your lies straight.

4 posted on 03/12/2004 11:44:30 PM PST by sixmil
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To: Prime Choice
>Prime minister says outsourcing will create work in U.S.

Translation from Hindi to English: "Losing your job is good for you."

5 posted on 03/12/2004 11:49:06 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: sixmil
How many US jobs would be lost with protectionism? Let’s see, about 6 million “insourced” jobs to start.
6 posted on 03/12/2004 11:52:48 PM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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To: sixmil
"Outsourcing makes businesses more competitive, increasing their exports and their profits and placing more investment surpluses in their hands which can be deployed to make more jobs," Vajpayee said.

Words of wisdom from the country only capable of creating workers, not capable of creating a job.

7 posted on 03/12/2004 11:54:09 PM PST by lewislynn (Free traders know it isn't , they just believe cheap popcorn makers raises their living standards.)
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To: lewislynn
Words of wisdom from the country only capable of creating workers, not capable of creating a job.

They seem to be quite good at creating jobs to me.

8 posted on 03/12/2004 11:57:58 PM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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They seem to be quite good at creating jobs to me.

Then you don't know the difference between jobs and workers.

When an Indian makes a call for the American company did the Indian create the job or did the American company create the job?

How many US jobs would be lost with protectionism?

A point for you to ponder:

Which country practices protectionism? Which country is attracting the jobs?...In your words: "They seem to be quite good at creating jobs to me."

9 posted on 03/13/2004 12:07:44 AM PST by lewislynn (Free traders know it isn't , they just believe cheap popcorn makers raises their living standards.)
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When an Indian makes a call for the American company did the Indian create the job or did the American company create the job?

The American company hired an Indian to fill the job. The Indian provides more value added than the American counterpart. Right now, India holds a competitive advantage in the areas of call centers and a host of other overhead functions. Overhead jobs are a target from the time they are created.

10 posted on 03/13/2004 12:15:10 AM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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To: Texasforever
I read an article today that brought up 1996 and the job losses due to "downsizing" and, of course, the unemployment rate was 5.6% like today.

Typical media and politicians...just change the language.
11 posted on 03/13/2004 12:20:08 AM PST by Fledermaus (Do I have to resign from the VRWC to join the new RAM: Republican Attack Machine???)
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To: Fledermaus
We don't need no steeenking facts.
12 posted on 03/13/2004 12:22:27 AM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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To: lewislynn
I have grown so weary of this absurd and twisted 'logic.'

If outsourcing truly creates jobs in the country that outsources, then why aren't the Indians talking about sending their work over here? Why aren't they lobbying our representatives to allow their work to be done in our country rather than lobbying them to let our work be done in theirs?
According to their logic, if they would offshore to us, it would provide them with lots of good jobs.
13 posted on 03/13/2004 12:57:13 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
The river never flows upstream.
14 posted on 03/13/2004 2:18:51 AM PST by VinayFromBangalore
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To: lewislynn
Well said, Texasforever should re-read your post 3 o4 thousand times. India is Protectionist. India is getting the jobs.
15 posted on 03/13/2004 4:17:56 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Texasforever
How many US jobs would be lost with protectionism? Let’s see, about 6 million “insourced” jobs to start.
Who is promoting protectionism? It seems to me that free traders are always the ones talking about protectionism. The fair traders are talking about a control system, hopefully closed loop. Free traders think of trade as an on/off switch, free trade or protectionism. The reality is that there are pluses and minuses with both extremes, so a rational policy is one that takes the best of both. That is, free trade without giving away the farm.

16 posted on 03/13/2004 8:20:35 AM PST by sixmil
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To: lewislynn
India's prime minister on Friday defended job outsourcing to India, saying that it would eventually create more employment in the United States, not less.

India & the US keep saying this...but cannot articulate what kinds of jobs....
17 posted on 03/13/2004 11:41:28 AM PST by stylin19a (Is it vietnam yet ?)
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To: lewislynn
Words of wisdom from the country only capable of creating workers, not capable of creating a job.

India firm rolls out next Rover

Tata Motors, the Indian firm that is building MG Rover's next car for the UK market, has been showing off the City Rover, which is due to go on sale in November. MG Rover's new small car, the City Rover, is based on Tata's Indica model, which was the first passenger car entirely designed and built in India

Ratan Tata, the boss of a corporate empire which includes steelmaking, telecoms and the Tetley tea business, says the alliance with Rover is "a very serious relationship, not a flirtation."

Seems like they're pretty good at creating other stuff too. Not just manufacturing shops for American companies
18 posted on 03/14/2004 2:07:32 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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