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NRO ^ | March 22, 2004 | Michael I. Krauss & Robert A. Levy

Posted on 03/22/2004 6:36:07 AM PST by neverdem

No gun-suit immunity, no assault-weapons ban.

In a dramatic, almost wacky turn of events, the Senate overwhelmingly rejected S. 1805, a bill earlier this month that would have immunized firearm manufacturers and dealers against many forms of tort liability. The bill's own sponsors turned against it, as did its original NRA supporters, after opponents succeeded in adding two "poison pill" amendments — one extending a soon-to-expire ban on so-called assault weapons, and another closing an alleged "gun-show loophole" for unregulated sales of firearms.

Pro-gun and anti-gun groups seemed equally disappointed. The NRA had lobbied long and hard for tort immunity, and lost. Gun-control advocates dearly wanted an assault-weapons extension and new gun-show rules; they lost too. Call us contrarians, but we're delighted on both counts. To us, this is a win-win situation — a win for the Constitution and a win for law-abiding gun owners everywhere.

For starters, tort law is an issue for the states to resolve. We take a backseat to no one in condemning baseless liability suits against gun manufacturers by municipalities, counties, and states, and by victims injured when a criminal misuses a gun that has been legally produced and sold. In fact, we have written widely, describing and decrying the whole process. But baseless tort suits in state courts are not grounds for federal jurisdiction.

By our count, 33 states have enacted legislation forbidding such suits. Elsewhere, not a single claim has prevailed in any of the government-sponsored lawsuits against the gun industry. That's pretty skimpy evidence of a firearms torts crisis. Yes, things might one day get out of hand. If a state, or the District of Columbia, eventually does endanger Americans' Second Amendment rights through bogus damage awards against gun makers, those excesses will indeed justify federal intervention under the 14th Amendment. But we're not there yet. To the contrary, law-abiding gun owners across the nation have pressured statehouses to prevent a "tort tax" on the price of firearms.

The Supreme Court's position, fleshed out in City of Boerne v. Flores (1997), is that federal legislation to enforce the 14th Amendment must be "congruent and proportional" to any underlying violation by the states. Today, action by Congress is clearly premature. Let's not throw out the constitutional baby with the frivolous lawsuit bathwater.

The defeat of S. 1805 is good news for federalism. And the downfall of the two killer amendments is just as gratifying. The "assault weapons" ban is shot full of holes. Ownership of fully automatic firearms has been banned by federal law since 1934. Semi-automatic firearms, which fire only one round each time the trigger is pulled, have been around for more than a century. They are used by tens of millions of Americans for hunting, self-defense, recreational target shooting, and in formal marksmanship competitions, including the Olympics. Even the rabidly anti-gun Washington Post admits, "Assault weapons play a part in only a small percentage of crime."

Naturally felons, drug addicts, illegal aliens, minors, and incompetents cannot buy firearms — semi-automatic or otherwise. The ban on "assault weapons" is arbitrary and capricious. It does little to curb criminal violence; but it does a great deal to inhibit the full exercise of rights secured by the Second Amendment. For now, the ban is dead. Good riddance.

Ditto for the effort to require background checks on private sales of firearms at gun shows. According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, only 2 percent of criminal guns are purchased at gun shows, and that includes straw purchases (which are already illegal) and purchases through licensed dealers (which are already subject to background checks). Bad guys buy their guns on the black market, not at gun shows. The proposal for background checks on private sales is a feel-good effort to placate anti-gun zealots. Its practical effect is to saddle honest firearm owners with yet another needless regulation.

"Public Choice," or the science of legislative action, predicts that the interplay of special interests will often result in passage of the worst kinds of legislation. Here, the opposite happened. Supporters of the legislation were trapped. They loved the tort-suit immunity favored by one special-interest group. But they hated even more the gun-control amendments offered by another special-interest group. The result: a legislative outcome that ultimately respected both federalism and Second Amendment rights. Few if any senators wanted that result. But from our perspective, two cheers for the demise of S. 1805.

— Michael I. Krauss is professor of law at George Mason University. Robert A. Levy is senior fellow in constitutional studies at the Cato Institute. This article is drawn in part from the authors' forthcoming Cato Policy Analysis, "Can Tort Reform and Federalism Coexist?"


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; awb; bang; banglist; liabiltyreform; s1805; tortreform
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1 posted on 03/22/2004 6:36:07 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Three cheers for the Senate. By linking the AWB to something not in the best interest of the NTLA, they killed it more effectively than Charlton Heston could ever have hoped to.
2 posted on 03/22/2004 6:39:40 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Kerry - Yes to Iraq War, No to $87 Bil to pay for it.)
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To: *bang_list; AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Shooter 2.5; ...
A good summary of recent events.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

3 posted on 03/22/2004 7:50:10 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Joe Brower
Thank you for pinging us to the update on this..I've not been able to follow this bill at all.
4 posted on 03/22/2004 7:53:45 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Joe Brower
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5 posted on 03/22/2004 7:58:12 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: .cnI redruM
Three cheers for the Senate. By linking the AWB to something not in the best interest of the NTLA, they killed it more effectively than Charlton Heston could ever have hoped to.

I have been a loyal repubican for 95 years and voted for Bush but now that he will try to sneak the AWB through congress I vow to vote for Kerry or maybe even that Libertarian guy whoever he is.

6 posted on 03/22/2004 8:01:55 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
"I have been a loyal repubican for 95 years and voted for Bush but now that he will try to sneak the AWB through congress I vow to vote for Kerry or maybe even that Libertarian guy whoever he is."

I congratulate you on your longevity. When you go vote for Kerry, make sure Kerry's operatives come pick you up in a nice air conditioned van, serve you a nice sandwich, bag of chips and soda and show you how to place your vote.

No wait, don't do that. Because if you do, you will wind up voting for Buchanan, like in 2000.


7 posted on 03/22/2004 8:11:36 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Bury Kerry in 04! Down with Lenin Loving Lemmings....)
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To: cinFLA
"I have been a loyal repubican for 95 years and voted for Bush but now that he will try to sneak the AWB through congress I vow to vote for Kerry or maybe even that Libertarian guy whoever he is."

I congratulate you on your longevity. When you go vote for Kerry, make sure Kerry's operatives come pick you up in a nice air conditioned van, serve you a nice sandwich, bag of chips and soda and show you how to place your vote.

No wait, don't do that. Because if you do, you will wind up voting for Buchanan, like in 2000.


8 posted on 03/22/2004 8:11:49 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Bury Kerry in 04! Down with Lenin Loving Lemmings....)
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To: neverdem
Ownership of fully automatic firearms has been banned by federal law since 1934.

This is a common misconception. If you're willing to pay thousands of dollars for a $500 firearm, plus a $200 transfer tax, plus undergo a months-long Federal background check including fingerprinting, and if your state doesn't have laws banning them, you can buy yourself a machine gun. They couldn't ban them outright because back then nobody was particularly confused as to the meaning of the Second Amendment as they are today, so instead they imposed what was, at the time, a prohibitive tax on them.

And, a Federal court has recently ruled that the Federal tax law doesn't apply to a machine gun built for personal use entirely within a particular state.

9 posted on 03/22/2004 8:12:18 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: cinFLA
What makes you think it was Bush or the Republicans who introduced that amendment? My money's on Schumer, Feinstein, and Boxer.
10 posted on 03/22/2004 8:13:42 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: cinFLA
I have been a loyal repubican for 95 years...

Lessee, 95 years + 21 years for legal voting age back then = 116 years old. And you're still a single issue voter?

11 posted on 03/22/2004 8:14:08 AM PST by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: neverdem
One little nit pick.

He wrote: "Ownership of fully automatic firearms has been banned by federal law since 1934."

Not true. It is absolutely legal for citizens to own FA firearms. It should have been written: "Ownership of fully automatic firearms has been tightly regulated by federal law since 1934."


But then, what the anti-gunners don't know, can't hurt them.
12 posted on 03/22/2004 8:15:03 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn?t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: cinFLA
I have been a loyal repubican for 95 years and voted for Bush but now that he will try to sneak the AWB through congress I vow to vote for Kerry or maybe even that Libertarian guy whoever he is.

Yeah whatever. That's what all trolls start off by saying they supported Bush in 2000 BUT... they're a military veteran BUT... they're a lifelong Pubbie BUT...

At age 95 you should be more worried about other things than the AWB.

13 posted on 03/22/2004 8:17:23 AM PST by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Or if that 95 year old poster lived in Milwaukee, maybe Teresa Heinz will hand out cigarettes from her stretch limo and encourage him to vote for Kerry.

And if he had a great-grandson who went to college, he can double or triple vote like Marquette University students did!

14 posted on 03/22/2004 8:21:28 AM PST by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: Joe Brower
Be Ever Vigilant!
15 posted on 03/22/2004 8:22:01 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: cinFLA
I could respect a vote for a Libertarian if Bush allows the AWB to sneak through as a rider on some spending bill as I have threatened to sit home or vote third party myself is such happens, however, I will die before I cast a vote for Kerry.
16 posted on 03/22/2004 8:29:39 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn?t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: ServesURight; EQAndyBuzz; LexBaird
Don't click on this photo. You might just realize that you missed my sarcasm! :-)


17 posted on 03/22/2004 8:30:39 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
you missed my sarcasm! :-)

Ahh. Yer just too subtle for me. I truly thought you were a 116 year-old codger. ;)

18 posted on 03/22/2004 8:41:23 AM PST by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: cinFLA
Yeah, that'll show 'em. Sheesh. Kerry will fix you right up.
19 posted on 03/22/2004 8:41:37 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Are these leftists stupid or evil or both? ><BCC>)
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To: LexBaird; Blue Collar Christian
Ahh. Yer just too subtle for me. I truly thought you were a 116 year-old codger. ;)

There were so many such posts in the past six months I just couldn't resist. Next time I will use the < sarcasm > tags!

20 posted on 03/22/2004 8:46:17 AM PST by cinFLA
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