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But For The Grace...(Amazing pic of Mid-Air between Baron and Cessna)
Avweb ^ | March 22, 2004 | Russ Niles

Posted on 03/23/2004 7:08:28 PM PST by Veloxherc

March 22, 2004

But For The Grace...

By Russ Niles Newswriter, Editor

Sometimes you see the wreckage and wonder how anyone got out alive. If this Beech Baron had been flying a few inches to the right, we likely wouldn't be wondering how Robert Hollis Gates, of Tehachapi, Calif., managed to land the plane safely after a midair with a Cessna 180 last Jan. 16. The Baron lost a section of fuselage, but Gates walked away with cuts and bruises. The 180 broke up in flight and the pilot, 40-year-old David Lazerson, a civilian test pilot instructor at Edwards Air Force Base and deputy director of the Joint Strike Fighter Integrated Test Force, was killed. According to the NTSB report, Gates said he was in cruise climb between 5,500 and 6,500 feet near Tehachapi when he saw the right gear leg of the Cessna coming at him from one o' clock. He ducked, then saw a dirt strip and managed to set the Baron down. AVweb wasn't able to reach Gates.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: airplane; aviation; flying
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Wow one lucky guy, but I feel bad for the man in the Cessna that did not make it.
1 posted on 03/23/2004 7:08:30 PM PST by Veloxherc
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To: Veloxherc; HairOfTheDog; Johnny Gage
Holy cr@p!
2 posted on 03/23/2004 7:37:18 PM PST by Professional Engineer (3/11/04 saw the launching of the Moorish reconquest of Spain.)
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To: Professional Engineer
You can say that again. Gulp.
3 posted on 03/23/2004 7:41:02 PM PST by Samwise (In the battle between Good and Evil, Evil often wins unless Good is very, very careful. --Spock)
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To: Aeronaut
Can you ping the GA crew on this?
4 posted on 03/23/2004 7:41:38 PM PST by FreedomFlynnie (Your tagline here, for just pennies a day!)
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To: Professional Engineer; Ramius
Indeed!
5 posted on 03/23/2004 7:44:45 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Veloxherc

Less than a grand to actually know where the bogeys are located...

6 posted on 03/23/2004 7:52:07 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Veloxherc
It's inna hole!
7 posted on 03/23/2004 7:53:24 PM PST by Sender ("Let there be no compulsion in religion." - Mohammad)
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To: Veloxherc
DUCK!!!! Ouch!
8 posted on 03/23/2004 8:05:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Professional Engineer
I'd rather be lucky than good.
9 posted on 03/23/2004 8:56:12 PM PST by Ramius
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To: Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; Wright is right!; ..

10 posted on 03/24/2004 1:10:57 AM PST by Aeronaut (John Kerry's mother always told him that if you can't say anything nice, run for president. ....)
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To: Veloxherc
OMG!
11 posted on 03/24/2004 1:17:43 AM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: Veloxherc
Haysus Marimba! Gates is probably thanking his lucky stars that Beech built the Baron as a low wing airplane with strong longitudinal stability.
12 posted on 03/24/2004 3:59:56 AM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Veloxherc
A better looking Baron:

Also, does anyone know why Beech went with the "royalty" names (Baron, Duchess, Duke, Queen, King)?

13 posted on 03/24/2004 4:03:02 AM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Veloxherc
This pretty much dispels the "big sky" theory.
14 posted on 03/24/2004 4:16:01 AM PST by banjo joe
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To: banjo joe
Big sky is a myth. Back when Archie League was controlling traffic and everyone practiced IFR (I Follow Roads, I Follow Rail) there was enough room to fly for fun. In today's climate with GA aircraft, like the Baron, zipping along and competing for airspace with part 121 and 135 operations, that's no longer the case.
15 posted on 03/24/2004 4:48:12 AM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Ping
16 posted on 03/24/2004 4:49:58 AM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Southack
Or you could just use your Mk. 1 eyeball, those work pretty well, espicially when traffic is THAT close.
17 posted on 03/24/2004 5:10:01 AM PST by AntiKev (Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads you to vote Democrat.)
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To: Archangelsk
Haven't had any close calls... but I've had other a/c closer than I'd like, especially around non-towered a/p.
18 posted on 03/24/2004 6:34:21 AM PST by banjo joe
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To: Veloxherc
Have aircraft manufacturers been sued for the design defect that prevents 360 x 360 degree vision from their aircraft?

All seem to have some major blind spots. Another trial lawyer cash cow!
19 posted on 03/24/2004 6:39:43 AM PST by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: Veloxherc
Here's a question from someone who knows a whopping zero about flying but...

...it seems the wheel of the Cessna, from the picture, came at the plane from a left to right trajectory, and if anything, from the pilots perspective, it would seem to be in the "11 o'clock postion" not the "1 o'clock position" as the article states. Am I right about this or am I missing something in the pilot language here?
20 posted on 03/24/2004 6:46:41 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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