[Atlantic Friend]

Well, I guess I like lost causes, James...even though I suppose most fans of the thermonuclear option in Iraq mainly advocate the option to vent their anger. I have yet to meet a Freeper who genuinely regret American troops have not put 6 million German civilians in extermination camps just because the Nazis did just that.

Since America stands not for tyranny and barbary but for freedom and justice, since patriots stand for American values and since Freepers are fiercely patriotic, I guess I won't meet one in a hurry.

[The Other Harry]

Since America stands not for tyranny and barbary but for freedom and justice, since patriots stand for American values and since Freepers are fiercely patriotic, I guess I won't meet one in a hurry.

You have not met one in me.

But "American values" are not something we can impose on Iraq. The more we try, the more of our valient soldiers will get killed. They will resist us. Every day, all the time.

[bondjamesbond]

I just want us to do what works in Iraq. Nuking Fallujah is not going to work. A thoroughgoing pacification of Fallujah is what is required, and will demonstrate to that part of the world that we are capable of doing so and willing to do it.