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Don't Be Surprised When Iraqi WMD Found (Rush)
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | April 20, 2004 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 04/20/2004 5:23:18 PM PDT by Bayou City

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To: Maximilian
Some years from now, Baghdad is going to be a premium vacation destination. I plan to be there playing golf someday, along with guided sidetrips to some of the vast and wonderful historical sites throughout greater Mesopotamia.

What we are seeing now is the most important series of world events since WWII. I think we are on the brink of a massive seed change for the better in the middle east. I'll be the first to admit that it comes with high risk. Of course it does. Nothing worthwhile could be otherwise. But if we can pull this off, and I do believe we can, then we will have done more for improvement of world peace and prosperity than has ever been done before.

Yes, we have jumped with both feet into the middle east and all of the hornets' nests there. But this time we're saying on behalf of the civilized world: "Look, we tired of your s#!t, and since you won't fix it we're going to fix it for you."

61 posted on 04/20/2004 6:44:25 PM PDT by Ramius ([...sip...])
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To: ApesForEvolution
Thanks, but I'm actually in the Army and am not allowed to write articles... So I come here to meet with great Americans who actually stand up for the difficult to do and moral right things.
62 posted on 04/20/2004 6:44:46 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: Maximilian
We know Saddam had WMD because he has used them in the past and we have seen the proof.
63 posted on 04/20/2004 6:50:33 PM PDT by oyez (Fortune favors the bold.)
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To: M1Tanker; All
Thanks very much for your service, M1Tanker.

God bless!

Saddam used wmd to fight two wars, and kill thousands and thousands of his own people. A person would have to be pretty naive to think that he destroyed them.
64 posted on 04/20/2004 6:54:32 PM PDT by Sun
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To: Apollo
"From the CNN article: Jordanian security last week intercepted three trucks, believed to be
traveling from the northern border with Syria, that were packed with explosives intended for
government buildings, the U.S. Embassy and a number of hotels. From the Telegraph article:
An official close to the investigation said three vehicles had been found, each filled with
explosives, detonators and "primary materials" for making a chemical bomb. Had this device
exploded, the official said, an area exceeding half a square mile would have been contaminated.

Notice the difference?"

I've heard both of these stories on the news.
One says a "truck" with "17 tons" of explosives was was to be used to attack the US Embassy in
Amman, Jordan and to attack the building used by the Jordanian Intelligence services.

The other story mentions an attempted chemical attack the could leave up to twenty thousand
dead. The type chemical is never mentioned. The news readers at CNNABCNBCMSNBCCBS etc.
don't show the slightest curiosity about what sort of chemical this could be. Wonder why?
And the Jordanian government isn't offering to tell either. This is one strange story.
What do you think it all means?

65 posted on 04/20/2004 6:56:47 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Billthedrill
That pop you will hear will be the entire "Bush lied!" balloon. It will, of course, be stoutly denied.

I want our President to be vindicated and I want major crow to be served to the libs for their constant harping about the WMD's.
66 posted on 04/20/2004 6:58:31 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: StormEye
I find it remarkable that this story isn't getting wider attention. Was it chem or not? If so, was it VX? what is really going on here?

Seems like media interest should be high in this sort of thing.
67 posted on 04/20/2004 7:01:15 PM PDT by Ramius ([...sip...])
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To: I'mAllRightJack
Are you also known as John F'n kerry?

Oh no, my cover is blown.

You are not an intellectual giant.

"In the land of the giant, the one-eyed man is king." I suppose that in the land of the pygmies, one needn't be a giant to tower over the others.

68 posted on 04/20/2004 7:02:41 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: plain talk
If you have any facts or logic to offer besides cynicism, go ahead and post them.

And maybe I'll post some facts and logic about the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny while I'm at it. Sorry, but the reality is that YOU have to demonstrate even the smallest shred of evidence that WMDs existed in Iraq. So far Colin Powell, Tenet, Bush, Blair and everyone else involved has admitted that they have zero evidence. Maybe you know something that they don't know?

69 posted on 04/20/2004 7:05:23 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: okie01
And, while we're at it, why don't we get the hell out of California, Arizona, Nevada and Utah, too.

Don't tell me you want to make Serbia, Afghanistan and Iraq into the 51st, 52nd, and 53rd states!!?? If not, then your comparison is irrelevant.

70 posted on 04/20/2004 7:07:17 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: ApesForEvolution
You really believe this? I have reservations, but I'd like to compare notes. Where would you like to start with regards to Bush turning over his admin to 'McCainiacs'?

How about if we start with Bill Kristol and his cohorts over at Weekly Standard. Wasn't he the standard-bearer for John McCain? And wasn't his father the inventor of "neo-conservatism" (note quote in earlier post). And didn't they place all their friend in the White House. Check out the fracas between Robert Novak and David Frum if you want to see a a contrast between a real conservative and the kind of excrement that got placed in the White House by the "McCainiacs."

71 posted on 04/20/2004 7:11:09 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
Something I don't understand about the whole "Bush Lied" train of thought
What about the "Bush is an idiot who was played for a sucker by neo-cons who are now abandoning him like rats leaving a sinking ship" train of thought? Bush could have had a decent presidency but he shot himself in the foot by turning over his administration to the people who supported John McCain in the 2000 Republican primary.

What in the heck are you talking about??????? Mr. Bush is not an idiot! The heck with you for thinking such a thing! There aren't any RATS working with him, they are all in the demoncraptict party
18 posted on 04/20/2004 8:49:53 PM EDT by Maximilian
72 posted on 04/20/2004 7:11:29 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: Maximilian
Uh... wait a sec... are you saying that Iraq *never* has had chemical weapons?

Dang... there's a whole lot of dead Iranians and dead Kurds that might have some argument with that.
73 posted on 04/20/2004 7:11:47 PM PDT by Ramius ([...sip...])
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To: k2blader
Are you saying you'd rather have the Taliban and Saddam back in power?

As long as the US government isn't involved, they can have anyone running their countries that they damn well please. I don't have any particular opinions on who I want running lots of countries around the world. In fact, of the 179 countries in the UN, 178 of them can pick whomever they choose. Let's start with our own country before we worry about "regime change" in Afghanistan or anywhere else.

And you can bank on this: I'd sure as hell rather have Slobodan Milosevic back in power in Serbia instead of the KLA Muslim terrorists running things over there.

74 posted on 04/20/2004 7:14:20 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: border bud
What if the Ru-skies helped Saddam transport the WMDS to cover up their orgin-the Ru-skies-? We just may have to stop pretending the the Russians are our "friends". I think that the US would run interference for them to delay a showdown.
75 posted on 04/20/2004 7:14:42 PM PDT by rubofthebrush (Don't steam me,cause I'm already steam)
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To: ApesForEvolution
If you are on the side of good, then you must agree that Syria and Iran should be on the very, very short list for regime change next. If you are on the side of pure evil, laziness, self-importance, etc., then you will not agree.

Put me down for "pure evil, laziness, self-importance, etc.,"

76 posted on 04/20/2004 7:16:23 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Bayou City
That's Syria moving up to #3 with a bullet on Rummy's Top 40!

..1. Afghanistan
..2. Iraq
*3. Syria
..4. Iran
77 posted on 04/20/2004 7:18:02 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Ramius
Seems like media interest should be high in this sort of thing.

There ya go... thinking again </sarcasm

Seriously, you are correct. This should be a "stop the presses" story. Only Newsmax.com, FR, and VERY few other media outlets reported the full stories. The fact it is not a media blitz is quite telling about thier concern for the truth. The fact that it is reported so differently also speaks volumes. I really would like to know what these chemicals are.

That said, since the report indicates these were the primary components of the agent, it leads me to believe the agent was Sarin. Sarin gas is a bynary compound: You must mix two components together to produce it. Some other chemical weapons are like this, since transporting inert components is obviosly safer than moving an assembled weapon. I'm betting Sarin or Mustard Gas since they are simpler and would survive the explosion better, but GB blister or VX nerve are also possibilities. The issue with some types of GB and VX in a bomb is they dissapate quickly in high heat. Even desert temps will render it lees-than-leathal in a relativly short time.

This was part of the old Soviet doctrine we trained against. The Soviets trained to use "non-persistant" or short duration chem attacks to separate NATO units or destroy C2 nodes and "rear" areas that the Red Army would eventually want to move through. Anyone ever going to NTC remembers the non-persistant chemical stikes that would seal off movement corridors while the OPFOR attacked at thier leisure. For those not in the military, don't worry, our training NBC attacks were all notional and marked with innocuous smoke granades and a O/C (referee) to judge who did the right things and who got "killed".

78 posted on 04/20/2004 7:18:24 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: Jorge
Just like I know that my daughter has a computer in her room. I gave it to her. I just cant find it under the mess.
79 posted on 04/20/2004 7:20:16 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: Maximilian
What a load of crap. I'll go out on a limb and guarantee that they aren't any WMDs. Put me down with Mel Gibson in his interview with Diane Sawyer, "I think I'll hide next to the WMDs, that way no one will ever find me.

Yes, you are a load of crap!!!!!!!!!! The heck with you, hide as much as you wnat, hopefully you will be contaminted.
80 posted on 04/20/2004 7:21:40 PM PDT by Ethyl
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