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To: Beckwith
Just some cross reference details on this...

According to This Report [POISON GAS PLOT] , Azmi al-Jayousi, leader of the terror cell, admitted he was schooled in explosives and poisons in Afghanistan, then plotted in Iraq with Jordanian militant Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, a close associate of Osama bin Laden.

This still shows a link between Iraq & al-Qaeda, but it seems al-Jyaousi's training was actually done in Afghanistan.

3 posted on 04/27/2004 2:18:01 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
From the Daily Telegraph article linked to below: Iraqi police ‘trained al-Qaeda‘

04feb03

IRAQI secret police trained al-Qaeda operatives in poison gas use, according to The New Yorker magazine.

The magazine also claims a radical Muslim group linked to al-Qaeda is operating in northern Iraq.

Citing senior US administration officials, reporter Jeffrey Goldberg reports that Iraqi Abu Abdullah al-Iraqi was sent by al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden to ask Iraq for assistance in poison gas use.

"Al-Iraqi‘s mission was successful, and an unknown number of trainers from an Iraqi secret-police organisation called Unit 999 were dispatched to camps in Afghanistan to instruct al-Qaeda terrorists," he says.

The article does not say when the training was carried out.

Goldberg also claims that the CIA is taking seriously reports that another Iraqi, known as Abu Wa‘el, "is the liaison of (Iraqi leader) Saddam‘s intelligence service to a radical Muslim group called Ansar al-Islam, which controls a small enclave in northern Iraq".

Goldberg says he was told that the area was to be used as an alternative to Afghanistan as a base of operations.

Quoting US and Kurdish officials, he says the enclave is used by an al-Qaeda subgroup known as Jund al-Shams, run by Mussa‘ab al-Zarquawi, "believed by European intelligence agencies to be al-Qaeda‘s main specialist in chemical and biological terrorism".

Source.

25 posted on 04/27/2004 5:43:42 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: An.American.Expatriate
This still shows a link between Iraq & al-Qaeda.

This only proves the relationship in the physical sense. It does not prove "beyond any doubt," however, a working relationship between the Iraqi Governement under SH and al-Qaeda. Not that I care because we had enough reasons to go after SH even in the absence of a relationship with AQ, but really, this proves only that Azmi al-Jayousi received training from an AQ operative -- Al-Zawahiri -- while physically in Iraq. Although the Iraqi government many have been involved, this does not prove it "beyond any doubt." To accept the premise by itself would mean that the United States government was behind the 09.11 attack because many of the hijackers learned to fly airplanes right hear in the CONTUS.

41 posted on 04/27/2004 6:57:36 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: An.American.Expatriate
ANYONE care to deal with the fact that before the war, Zarqawi's operations were in the Kurdish territory in the north of Iraq that was indisputably not under the control of Saddam's government?

C'mon, folks. A little intellectual honesty here. Or do you think we should be bombing the hell out of the Kurds?

88 posted on 04/27/2004 8:30:28 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
al-Zarqawi is probably at the center of alot of what's going on in Iraq (roadside bombs, ambushes). Al-Sadr is too, but he's trying to win the hearts and minds of the people through propaganda so he can easily get a chair at the table of power, possibly the head chair. They each have a goal in mind, al-Zarqawi is targeting coalition forces, and al-Sadr is targeting the hearts and minds of Iraqi citizens.
278 posted on 04/28/2004 2:33:00 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/">Waffles</a>)
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I don't know if I can take/read much more of this...
349 posted on 04/28/2004 2:43:24 PM PDT by meema
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