[ZULU]

A typical Gibson choice.

We can watch Boudicca being whipped by mean Romans, in disgusting detail, and her daughters gang-raped.

Then we can watch vengeful hords of Bretons crucifying Roman civlians in retaliation.

Finally we will be treated to a long drawn out bloody and gory battle scene as the Romans return and finally massacre the revolting Celts, again in sordid detail.

I think Gibson is a sick man who is infatuated with violence of particularly gruesome and sadistic nature.

Lots of stuff happened in history - but he seems to continually to zero in on the most brutal.

With Mel Gibosn, who needs the Colosseum?

(I wonder if it will be in Celtic and Latin with Latin subtitles and with Jewish slave-merchants working for the Romans.)

If he REALLY wanted to do something great, why not a movie on Hannibal and the Second Punic War? At least that was about something significant, and, while brutal enough, has sufficient breadth to allow a gloss over the more repulsive events which occurred.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***I think Gibson is a sick man who is infatuated with violence of particularly gruesome and sadistic nature. *****

But KILL BILL 1&2 is ok?

[proust]

I think Gibson is a sick man who is infatuated with violence of particularly gruesome and sadistic nature.

Well, if you know your Hannibal, you should know your Aristotle as well. Gibson is infatuated with catharsis.

[FeliciaCat]

Much of history is bloody and violent. Ever read the bible?
Whats your point? Should movies only be made that portray the "nice" bits of history?

I would rather have TRUTH then some wishy-washy fluff.

[SevenDaysInMay]

Human prehistory and history was and is ruled by violence, marked by brief periods of peace enough to breed. For any given culture, a major war erupts about every generation, 15-30 years, or so.

Reportedly, at any given time, modern man across this planet has dozens of "wars" cooking along at any given time. Few in history have reached the scale of slaughter of African tribal competititon.

Who would make a film of the Hutu "experience"? Or the rampaging invasions of Mo'ham's gang of arabs slaughtering with the Sword of islam? Koran and Haddith in pictures? Can you say "fatwa"? So the truth of islam's spread shall never be told because to reveal who Mo'ham' (a man with voices in his head, aka psychotic) and what islam (death cult) actually is because muslims' holy scriptures command death.

The prolonged peace for some cultures in the 20th Century is because of the exhaustion from technological wars in Europe and the Pax Americana during WW III, the Cold War. Young and old EUropeans have disregarded that their 60 years of peace was obtained and maintained only through Americans' sacrifice of American life and treasure.

Gibson appears to be dropping the veil on make nice glossy history omitting the true methods of power structures. Nice people getting along don't make enduring history.

I'd like to see a Icon film on Spain's invasion of the Lowland countries to enforce Catholocism where hanging Protestant women by their breasts and men from their gentials was what we euphamistically call "persecution". Recreationally ritualistic tortuous death of captive protestants was Mother Church's Spain's SOP. The England's religious civil war, 30 and 100 Years Wars would also make for good period pieces. Central Europe was THE battle ground between foreign cultures vying for power. Peace was the pitiful survivors scratching a life ruined by the ravages of total war where females were booty.

For the subjugated cultures in the "British" Isles, Gibson is on point for meaningful history for English speaking peoples. For Scots, Welsh, and Irish, England was Rome. The East Anglia story is timeless.

The Armenians and Greeks exterminated and driven from Antotolia 90 years ago?

Attila? Undefeated by man , he may have been poisoned by his last teen (Gaul) "bride" on his "wedding" night. Screenwriters?

Why doesn't some Italian film producer make a world-class picture on Roman historical sea changes? Hannibal was just another warrior of invasive Phoenician stock; such a movie now would be condemned as a smear of arab/muslim culture.

Brad Pitt in "Troy"?

With porn and sodomy sanctioned by this outlaw SCOTUS, "The True Lives of Sparta" could be made and released. Spartans practiced post-birth abortions of males; "PRO-CHOICE" - NOW should be a producer.

The coming countless water wars enhanced by the "will of allah" shall be too brutal for any movie audience. (Forget "Water World".)

People like escapism, but 9/11 changed most Americans and some others.

[SauronOfMordor]

If he REALLY wanted to do something great, why not a movie on Hannibal and the Second Punic War?

Gibson would have a choice between being historicly accurate and making Hannibal black.

[gnarledmaw]

"Lots of stuff happened in history - but he seems to continually to zero in on the most brutal.

Because people pay for action, generally brutal. No one pays to see the 2 hour story of Leoripedes, the Greek grain merchant, squatting behind some shrubberies after eating bad squid.

[B-Chan]

Then we can watch vengeful hords of Bretons crucifying Roman civlians in retaliation.

I doubt it. Bretons would be living in their own land, Bretagne (Brittany), not in Great Britain, homeland of the Britons.

*****

King Arthur: How do you do, good lady? I am Arthur, King of the Britons. Whose castle is that?
Woman: King of the who?
King Arthur: King of the Britons.
Woman: Who are the Britons?
King Arthur: Well, we all are. We are all Britons. And I am your king.
-- Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)