Betsy DeVos: Michigan workers paid too much

I see nowhere in the FTC document where it states that Amway is required to label its products. There seems to be a truth in advertising problem with your claims. Ironic, eh?

I see YOU are calling me a liar. This, I believe, falls under the category of "personal attack", thus the A/M flag.

Given that the entire FTC notice I copied above pertains to a violation of the order mandating the company to provide the actual percentages in their promotions -- and, their failure to comply with that order -- I am force to wonder exactly what it is you read before blasting off your attack.

I suggest you read the FTC's notice again. The whole thing, this time.

Some highlights: "Amway violated the 1979 order by placing an advertisement in newspapers across the country that represented the earnings of distributors without the required disclosures. ... Amway violated the 1979 order by failing to include in its ad clear and conspicuous dis closures of the average earnings or sales of all distributors in any recent year or the percent of distributors who actually achieved the results claimed. ... Under the consent decree, Amway is prohibited from making claims about above-average distributor earnings or sales unless it makes the required disclosures about actual earnings or sales."

How much money do YOU make via Amway?

What percentile are you in?

What is your relationship to the company?

Time for you to put up or shut up.

Yes, thank you, I am unique. Much like the rare individual who signs up at the health club and then actually shows up consistently until the desired results are achieved. By your logic, the epidemic of obesity and heart disease must be evidence diet and exercise don't work.

Chuckle.

And by YOUR "logic", Ted Bundy was a cultural icon. After all, HE was unique too.

You can't have it both ways. Either Amway is great for the average guy -- or, it's a meat-grinder for all except the "unique" few.

Flip-flop.

One more thing. It is a big deal that a modern big business actually supports conservative, not politically correct, causes.

Blah, blah, blah.

The scope of the outfit encompasses far more than the money they pitch to the Country Club "G"OP set that knows what side its bread's buttered on.

If you were trying to impress me, you did. Not necessarily in the way you intended, though.

I think I'll bow out of this thread now. It's apparently getting drowned out by the Ambots and their rah rah happytalk.

Anyone wanting to read something other than party line happytalk is urged to type "amway" into google.

You might want to refine your search by including words like "ftc" or "recovery". In fact, simply typing the two words "amway recovery" (without the quotes) will keep you busy for hours -- and leave you a bit queasy.

Google is your friend.

"I still see nowhere where, in the FTC document, it 'requires Amway to label its products with the message that 54% of Amway recruits make nothing and the rest earn on average $65 a month.' Sources please."

LMAO!

One last word to the anklebiter contingent follows:

I GAVE you a citation for that statement.

Since you seem to have forgotten it, I'll give it to you again:

http://skepdic.com/amway.html

If you don't like what it says, take it up with the source.

Now go pester someone else, I'm outta here.

The only point I was trying to make is that it is unusual for folks to follow through on most things. I am an average guy who followed through, which made me unique I guess. But, I know lots of folks who are successful and happy in the business.

I am certain there is no convincing or impressing you, I just make it a point to defend what I have experienced as a good thing that supports lots of good causes that I believe in on the conservative side of the aisle.

Sorry it didn't turn out that way for you.

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