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First, Treat No Homos: Hypocritic Oath
The Village Voice ^ | April 29th, 2004 | Richard Goldstein

Posted on 05/03/2004 8:18:04 AM PDT by presidio9

Should a physician be allowed to turn you away if you're gay? Sounds like a no-brainer—but not if you live in Michigan.

Michigan's House of Representatives passed a bill last week that permits doctors and other health care providers to walk away from a procedure, treatment, or prescription that violates their religious beliefs. The Conscientious Objector Policy Act, which was pushed by the state's Catholic Conference—and opposed by Michigan's Medical Society—clearly applies to abortions and morning-after pills. But its broad wording could cover other medical situations, such as stem-cell research. The bill bar physicians from denying patients access to contraception, and it forbids discrimination against groups mentioned in the state civil rights law.

Guess which group is excluded from that statute?

"I believe there's a loophole big enough to drive a Mack truck through," said Chris Kolb, Michigan's only openly gay representative. Supporters of the bill are quick to deny this contention—but also loath to add sexual orientation to the bill's protected categories. "I don't think this legislation is the way to address that," Scott Hummel, a Republican lawmaker, told CNN. The Michigan statehouse is dominated by Republicans, which is why Kolb thinks the bill will pass the state senate as well. But the governor, Jennifer Granholm, is a Democrat. She's regarded as gay friendly, but Kolb says he can't be sure she will veto the legislation. Granholm's office released a statement declaring the bill "too broad" as it stands, but adding, "We are sympathetic to this issue and will work with the legislature to develop a version . . . that we all support."

Perhaps the most disturbing news of all was a Detroit News poll asking whether the bill should become law even though "some fear this means gays and lesbians could be refused treatment." Over 53 percent of respondents replied in the affirmative.

Laws exempting doctors from performing abortions exist in some 40 states, according to the American Civil Liberties Union. But these more sweeping statutes are a frightening new weapon for fundamentalists. In Illinois, the Health Care Right of Conscience Act prohibits discrimination not against patients but against doctors who refuse to offer a broad range of treatments for religious reasons. In neighboring Wisconsin, the governor vetoed a bill on April 21 that would have protected physicians who fail to advise patients of their treatment options, provide a referral, or render care if a life is at risk. Even the instructions in a living will could have been ignored if they violated a doctor's beliefs.

A right-of-conscience statute in Mississippi has the unexpected distinction of protecting patients from discrimination because of their sexual orientation. That's more than you can say for Michigan. And the issue is far from academic. During the early years of AIDS, polls showed that a majority of doctors didn't want to treat gay men. Things have changed for the better—or have they?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: aidsgayplague; catholic; churchandstate; healthcare; homosexualagenda; rightofconscience
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1 posted on 05/03/2004 8:18:04 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Why would gays need abortions?
2 posted on 05/03/2004 8:19:46 AM PDT by Alouette (Float like a butterfly, sting like a B-52)
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To: presidio9
Michigan's House of Representatives passed a bill last week that permits doctors and other health care providers to walk away from a procedure, treatment, or prescription that violates their religious beliefs.

It doesn't say anything about denying treatment based on sexual orientation. In any event, I doubt this would make much of a difference in an emergency situation. Hospitals are generally required to provide emergency treatment, no matter what.

3 posted on 05/03/2004 8:22:49 AM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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To: presidio9
Why would you want to go to a doctor that doesn't want to treat you anyway? Find one that does. Problem solved.
4 posted on 05/03/2004 8:23:52 AM PDT by jtminton (Ask me about my turn paper. It's about diaramas.)
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To: presidio9
SAVE THE GERBILS!
5 posted on 05/03/2004 8:24:39 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Why the long face, John?)
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To: presidio9
This is nonsense. It is one thing to be able to refuse to do an abortion or a procedure using the products from an abortion, and something very different to refuse to treat someone if you think they enjoy perverted sexual practices.
6 posted on 05/03/2004 8:24:58 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: presidio9
If I were a doctor, I wouldn't want to take the risk of getting HIV from those people.
7 posted on 05/03/2004 8:26:30 AM PDT by thoughtomator (yesterday Kabul, today Baghdad, tomorrow Damascus)
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To: Alouette
The pro-homo group is in this with the pro-abortion group. They want to be able to demand that any doctor provide abortion services and to jail them if they object.
8 posted on 05/03/2004 8:27:32 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The interesting thing is that many who wish to make these types of demands, are among the first to suggest that a doctor has the right to refuse treatment to smokers.
9 posted on 05/03/2004 8:29:31 AM PDT by Gabz (Those people with no honor have no idea how to treat honorable people.)
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To: presidio9
Sounds like a no-brainer

Damn straight it's a no-brainer. Doctors shouldn't be forced to work around aerosolized, HIV-infected bodily by-products unless they are given full moonsuit protection -- which they are not. I've known several doctors who have quit rather than take the risk, and dozens of others who have seriously discussed quiting. And I don't hang out with them all that much.

10 posted on 05/03/2004 8:33:23 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Perhaps the most disturbing news of all was a Detroit News poll asking whether the bill should become law even though "some fear this means gays and lesbians could be refused treatment." Over 53 percent of respondents replied in the affirmative.

How dare over half of the poll respondents believe that doctors may exercise their own moral choice!! [/dripping sarcasm off]

11 posted on 05/03/2004 8:35:05 AM PDT by Ignatz (zzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........*snort* (cough) What? What!!?)
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To: expatpat
These doctors are our slaves.

They should be forced to do whatever we demand, and; should we pass free medical coverage, do it without compensation.

If they wanted to have a conscience, or free will, they shouldn't have been born in the US.

12 posted on 05/03/2004 8:39:32 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: presidio9
Perhaps the most disturbing news of all was a Detroit News poll asking whether the bill should become law even though "some fear this means gays and lesbians could be refused treatment." Over 53 percent of respondents replied in the affirmative.

That's great. The liberals throw in some false premise into the question and it still passes. I guess most felt that 'some fear' didn't hold much water. A sign that people can think for themselves.

13 posted on 05/03/2004 8:41:06 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: LibWhacker
My wife is a nurse, and she told me that medical professionals are prohibited by law from even telling each other that a patient has AIDS. Wouldn't want any discrimination, don't ya know!
They find little ways around it, though. Such as reminding each other that "proper procedure is to wear rubber gloves when treating all patients" if the patient is HIV positive.
The gay lobby that pushed this legislation would rather it be spread to innocent medical professionals than contained, in the off-chance one little nurse or medical assistant might make a moral judgement. GRRRRRRR!
14 posted on 05/03/2004 8:42:14 AM PDT by Ignatz (zzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........*snort* (cough) What? What!!?)
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To: Alouette
Why would gays need abortions?

I was asking myself the same question while I was watching (in disgust) the "March for women's lives"(paging George Orwell) and there was some lesbian speaking on her "right" to have an abortion.

I was so confused.

15 posted on 05/03/2004 8:44:20 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (Our men are really grim fighters. I would hate to be the enemy. ----------- PATTON)
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To: presidio9
Things have changed for the better—or have they?

Interesting question. We don't have a problem with mental disorders such as homoerotic attraction but we do have a problem with doctors who are pro-life? I'd say that means things haven't changed for the better.

If there were a doctor who would refuse to treat a man because he were homosexual, I would never go to that doctor. Doctors are in the business of saving lives, no matter how they feel about the life they save. It applies to gays, rapists, murders, etc.

Actually, there really is no fear that doctors will stop treating homosexuals. This is yet another in the long list of examples about how homosexuals think everything is about sex.

Shalom.

16 posted on 05/03/2004 8:45:41 AM PDT by ArGee (Family diversity = the death of modern civilization)
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To: presidio9
The basic assumption here is that except for the law, doctors wouldn't treat homosexuals. I love it when the left concludes that we have to have a law to force moral behavior on some segment of society.
17 posted on 05/03/2004 8:45:51 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: thoughtomator
If I were a doctor, I wouldn't want to take the risk of getting HIV from those people.

That's a risk doctors take, as with getting malaria or meningitis or hepititis or TB or whatever. They have ways of minimizing their risk and they can employ them to minimize their risk of contracting AIDS.

I have no sympathy for any doctor who would refuse to treat a sick person, no matter how deviant. I also have no sympathy for the homos trying to turn an obviously pro-life measure to be something about them.

To the homos, everything is about sex.

Shalom.

18 posted on 05/03/2004 8:49:23 AM PDT by ArGee (Family diversity = the death of modern civilization)
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To: ArGee
"Doctors are in the business of saving lives, no matter how they feel about the life they save"

Doctors don't dictate our business. Why do you wish to dictate theirs?

19 posted on 05/03/2004 8:49:59 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: presidio9
said Chris Kolb, Michigan's only openly gay representative

Jim Kolbe is also gay. Does the root "kolb" mean homosexual?

20 posted on 05/03/2004 8:50:55 AM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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