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To: Plenum
I guess I'll take a stab at it:

1. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.

I think there is general agreement here that if Rush broke a law he should pay. And yes it is a failing if you try to remove pain with drug abuse instead of the taking care of the cause of the pain. In some cases it is a crime (if you manipulate prescriptions or purchase illicit drugs) and sometimes it isn't (alchohol).

2. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

The highest priority is protecting this country. If the U.N. happens to agree with us but does not act, that is their problem.

3. Government should relax regulation of Big Business and Big Money but crack down on individuals who use marijuana to relieve the pain of illness.

I think you'll see a quite a bit of arquing here at FR over marijuana, however it is still a crime to use it. I fail to see your arguement as to why we need to make capitalism a crime when it has provided bounty to billions around the world.

4. "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.

Standing Tall for America means letting American conduct their business without harassment.

5. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.

The ultimate regulation on corporations is the market. I won't even begin to address your point on abortion, however I note your point 13 where you don't trust women to inform themselves on the dangers of smoking before doing it.

6. Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.

Nonsensical diatribe - no comment needed.

7. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

This is actually a complex arguement regarding veteran's benefits - who is to be considered a veteran? Do you sacrifice the benefits of combat veterans by expanding benefits to everybody who has served? Personally I would happly cut 60% of the federal budget to properly fund Vet benefits, but you Dems have too many social engineering projects entrenched in the Fed budget to make that possible. The second part of your argument is completely false unless you are referring to Bill Clinton.

8. Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless you someday run for governor of California as a Republican.

End your sentence before "unless" and you are fine. We are all sinners, but that doesn't mean they should no longer be sins.

9. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

Here's a novel idea: lets use schools for education instead of being a pharmacy outlet. Thanks for the rubbers mommy-state may I have some more!

10. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.

Or find new allies who are willing to work with you to destroy the world's biggest problem and reward them as such. (I won't run down my list with you, but your list is pretty much limited to France and Germany.

11. HMOs and insurance companies have the interest of the public at heart.

Strawman arguement - HMOs and insurance companies exist to make money and should be regulated by the market like everything else. If the government provides bad service where do you go?

12. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

Please provide documentation on how the Iraqis have universal health care. Perhaps you are referring to getting hospitals open? I'm pretty sure most US hospitals are already open, except those that have been shut down by Dem trial lawyers.

13. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but Creationism should be taught in schools.

Let me parse your words - Global warming and second hand smoke are junk science. Global warming occured on Mars too - how many SUVs are on Mars again?

14. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Daddy Bush made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Baby Shrub needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

Perhaps you should do an internet search on "Cold War", "Iran Hostage Crisis", and "Gulf War" to understand America's role in Iraq.

15. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defence policy.

Lying under oath is an impeachable offense. I defy you to show where President Bush has lied.

16. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the internet.

If a marriage amendment is added to the Constitution it is "named" genius. Just an unfortunate necessity due to activist judges abusing their powers. I'm not sure what you are referring to in regard to censoring the internet; have you recieved a visit from the Secret Service after posting presidential death threats?

65 posted on 05/23/2004 8:39:21 AM PDT by gore_sux (and so does Xlinton)
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To: gore_sux; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; onyx; dixiechick2000; Smartass


Add one more:

France has banned all homosexual marriages and will criminally prosecute any who attempt to perform them.

Massachusetts has embraced homo marriages and is now the official homosexual state.

Ironic?


69 posted on 05/23/2004 9:50:05 AM PDT by devolve (````````````````` [..........................Hello from Sunny South Florida.........................)
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To: gore_sux

That was beautiful. Thank you.


95 posted on 05/23/2004 10:59:34 PM PDT by Floratina
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To: gore_sux
7. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

Heck, it's got to be an improvement over the previous Commander in Chief deploying troops over the phone WHILE he was receiving oral sex. Bill Clinton showed that he didn't treat these mens' lives with any respect.

104 posted on 05/24/2004 10:28:14 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: gore_sux
9. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

The problems with teen sex (and pregnancy, STDs, rape, molestation, homosexual seduction, and even depression) aren't because of "sex education" informing kids of the mechanics of reproduction, it is that there is a definite agenda PUSHING for teen sex.

It is an international movement (with strongholds in California and Europe). Look up "sex positive" teaching sometime.

These people want teens (and pre-teens) engaging in sex without shame (at all ages). They don't necessarily encourage adult-minor sex but they aren't willing to make solid judgement calls against it either.

This site has been shut down (partly out of finances, partly out of political pressure) http://www.allaboutsex.org/ but it still exists as a link to other sites (some government?) that push for this agenda.

105 posted on 05/24/2004 10:37:41 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: gore_sux
13. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but Creationism should be taught in schools.

I wonder what he makes of the science linking abortion to cancer risks.

106 posted on 05/24/2004 10:39:58 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: gore_sux
>>11. HMOs and insurance companies have the interest of the public at heart.

Strawman arguement - HMOs and insurance companies exist to make money and should be regulated by the market like everything else. If the government provides bad service where do you go?

Why not look at Canada where those who can't wait for public healthcare (like Tom Green) come to America to get diagnosed and treated (for lifethreatening ailments like cancer).

107 posted on 05/24/2004 10:42:31 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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