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Moslem cleric in England says killing non-Moslems is OK
IRN NEWS ^ | 5-27-04 | John Russell

Posted on 05/29/2004 1:32:24 PM PDT by Veritas_est

Moslem cleric in England says killing non-Moslems is OK By: John Russell | Source: IRN NEWS May 27, 2004 5:29PM EST

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A leading Muslim teacher in the United Kingdom is telling his followers that the killing of non-Moslems is in accordance with Islamic teachings. Shiek Abu Hamsa of the notorious Finsbury Park Mosque in London has been videotaped telling his congregation that, “If a Kafir (that is a non-Moslem)is walking by you and you catch him he’s booty (that is a slave), you can sell him in the market. Most of them are spies. And even if they don’t do anything, if Moslems can not take them and sell them in the market, you just kill them, its OK.” Hamsa went on to say that that Americans are especially worthy of death.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abu; booty; cleric; europeancivi1war; europeancivilwar; finsbury; hamsa; jihadineurope; kafir; killing; london; madpoet; moslem; mosque; muslims; shiek; slaves; ukmuslims
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Folks,

This is just a blurb. I don't have access to the full article. Maybe one of does, and can post the entire article here. I'd like to read it. However, I figure this is enough said on the subject anyway.

Point Made!

1 posted on 05/29/2004 1:32:25 PM PDT by Veritas_est
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To: Veritas_est

Didn't Mr. Bush tell America that Islam is a "religion of peace"? (not that America believed him for a minute)


2 posted on 05/29/2004 1:35:44 PM PDT by janetgreen (RED ALERT to President Bush - WE HAVE BEEN INVADED.)
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To: Veritas_est

I'm sure bin Laden says the same. They're terrorists.

I think the point is, this guy was arrested.


3 posted on 05/29/2004 1:35:45 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Veritas_est
I think you're just trying to start some trouble around here.

'Cuz everyone KNOWS that it's a very, very peaceful religion, and would never, ever condone one of its bigwigs saying such things

Why, the outcry of disgust and indignation would be positively deafening!!

So we all KNOW this just can't possibly be true...

4 posted on 05/29/2004 1:36:17 PM PDT by MarineDad (So what's the big deal? Allah wears panties on his head, too...but you don't hear HIM complaining.)
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To: MarineDad

He's a terrorist.


5 posted on 05/29/2004 1:37:37 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Veritas_est

Note, he's just another "A leading Muslim teacher." Nothing more, nothing less, nothing extraordinary. I can't WAIT for the West to go medieval on these SOBs.


7 posted on 05/29/2004 1:43:44 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: QuokkaPerth
war is coming to Europe

All they need to do is vote in Europe. They get enough people to emigrate to a European country (France, England) and vote out non-Muslims. They don't need war.

Believe me, I live in California and it is happening here in a different, but similar, way.

8 posted on 05/29/2004 1:43:46 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: QuokkaPerth

It's already begun. It's called the War on Terrorism.
Europe,Asia,U.S.,etc all need to fight against terrorists and the expansion of terrorism, just as we've had to fight against the spread of communism.


9 posted on 05/29/2004 1:43:59 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Veritas_est

Only OK? I thought it was mandatory.


10 posted on 05/29/2004 1:44:27 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: janetgreen

Some truths are immutable. Islam is a religion of peace, just as the Democrat Party is the party of patriotism, fiscal responsibility, and tolerance.


12 posted on 05/29/2004 1:45:32 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Veritas_est

I think that non-Musilms can now take the other side of the issue and say, "It is all right for non-Muslims to kill Muslim clerics who tell Muslims it is okay to kill non-Muslims."


13 posted on 05/29/2004 1:46:13 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: janetgreen

Actually, in his last speech, he made a significant shift on that issue that was buried in the canned canning by the media.


14 posted on 05/29/2004 1:46:56 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Any "church" that can't figure out abortion and homosexuality isn't worthy of the appellation)
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To: Veritas_est

Abu Hamster is now rotting in jail.


15 posted on 05/29/2004 1:47:15 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: QuokkaPerth
war is coming to Europe

BIGTIME!

They say you can see the minarets rising in European capitals as more mosques are built.

Europeans don't assimilate their immigrant communities like the U.S., they keep them in "refugee camps" JUST LIKE THE ARABS HAVE KEPT THE PALESTINIANS FOR OVER 50 YEARS!

16 posted on 05/29/2004 1:48:06 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((The French can"t even build an airport))
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To: sheik yerbouty

That might be true, but I've heard he's keeping any eye out for us.


17 posted on 05/29/2004 1:48:07 PM PDT by MarineDad (So what's the big deal? Allah wears panties on his head, too...but you don't hear HIM complaining.)
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To: Veritas_est

veritas semper veritas non est. (e pluribus ego)

I am so confused about the religion of Islam I think nothing more than the rebirth of Mohammed (followed by the prophet meeting with me)could ever allow me to fully understand. Ms. Ebadi who won the nobel peice prize last year conveyed the idea that Islam and democracy could be united. I don't believe this in the slightest. However, I wonder how she, and others, can make such a claim. Is it based on something at all? Or is it merely whimsical, wishful thinking? I certainly expect more from the nobel peace prize winner.


18 posted on 05/29/2004 1:48:50 PM PDT by cogentconservative
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To: QuokkaPerth

No, it isn't a tool to spread Islam. What these radical fundamentalists /islamofascists/or terrorists are spreading is a bastardization of Islam.

The President has said on several ocassions, what the terrorists are spreading and what we are fighting is " a totalitarian, political ideolgy."


19 posted on 05/29/2004 1:49:53 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Veritas_est

According to the koran I own (printed before 1960 and political correctness) he is absolutely correct.


20 posted on 05/29/2004 1:50:16 PM PDT by fella
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