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(Update: Trucks located) FBI issues alert for stolen propane tankersWednesday, June 2, 2004
cnn ^ | 6/1/04 | ccn

Posted on 06/01/2004 6:09:40 PM PDT by mdittmar

Edited on 06/02/2004 11:44:22 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Update: http://www.nbc30.com/news/3371963/detail.html

Wednesday, June 2, 2004 SAN ANTONIO, Texas (Reuters) -- FBI agents in Texas issued a nationwide alert Tuesday for two stolen propane tanker trucks, laden with thousands of gallons of the volatile liquefied gas.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: burningbridges; foundinlaredo; laredo; missingtanker; missingtruck; sanantonio; tanker; tankers; tankertrucks; texas
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To: Travis McGee
The threat to our infastructure is very real......to easy to disrupt or destroy.

Stay safe !

141 posted on 06/02/2004 12:49:27 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: LayoutGuru2
April 11, 2002 Tunisia Propane Attack Kills 21 Tourists

In this case, it sounds like the attackers were spooked by security, and didn't detonate their cargo as planned.

Imagine such a tanker using timed charged to vaporize and then detonate a propane cloud inside of a shopping mall or office building lobby.

142 posted on 06/02/2004 12:51:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Squantos

I read an article in SOF last year about Palis putting R/C detonated limpet type bombs under an Israeli tanker truck while it was out in the city. They blew it up when the truck returned to its loading area. Luckily, the morons couldn't read Hebrew, and put their bombs on a diesel tanker, not a gasoline tanker, so the fire was contained, and security improved.


143 posted on 06/02/2004 12:54:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee

Yep. I spend lots of time on the freeway, and near the freeways. We're plenty vulnerable alright. Thanks Travis.


144 posted on 06/02/2004 12:55:38 AM PDT by glock rocks (why is it kids can't read the bible in school, but can read the bible all they want once in prison?)
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To: glock rocks; Travis McGee
We know of too many ways........we've done most of em either in training or witnessed their effects. Too easy to wreak havoc upon a society of sheeple being herded by revenue hungry polidiots.

Gonna be a hot summer !.....Stay Safe !

145 posted on 06/02/2004 1:00:12 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: mdittmar

So what's the price of LP these days?

Shower on.


146 posted on 06/02/2004 1:01:38 AM PDT by Redcloak (My tagline was abuducted by aliens and replaced with this exact duplicate.)
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To: eno_; pete anderson
Not to be a panic-monger, but remember this?

Al-Qaida-linked Group Claims Tunisia Blast

A group affiliated with Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network has claimed responsibility for last Thursday's blast outside the ancient Ghriba Synagogue on the island of Djerba in Tunisia. The explosion of a propane-filled tanker killed 16 people, including ten German tourists, five Tunisians and a Frenchman.

Tunisian authorities, concerned for the country's image as a tourist destination, at first insisted that the blast was an accident. However, German prosecutors say that there is mounting evidence that the explosion was a deliberate attack. German witnesses have been quoted as saying that the truck was parked at the time of the explosion, and that one man was seen leaving it shortly before the blast.

"All the indications — witness statements, the criminal investigation on the spot — point toward an attack," German government spokesman Uwe-Karsten Heye said Wednesday. "There are no indications pointing to an accident theory."

Claim of responsibility
Two Arab newspapers reported Tuesday that a group calling itself the "Islamic Army for the Liberation of the Holy Sites" claimed responsibility for the attack on Djerba. The name is the same as that under which al-Qaida initially claimed the bombings of the United States embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998. The "Islamic Army" is now believed to be the military wing of a militant coalition dominated by bin Laden's al-Qaida and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad.

Both Al-Hayyat and the London-based Al Quds Al Arabi said that they had received a letter bearing an al-Qaida letterhead, in which the attack was claimed as a response to "Israeli crimes" against Palestinians. Al-Hayyat reported that the letter had been faxed to the paper's office in Islamabad, Pakistan. According to the letter, the attack was carried out by "the Tunisian Nizar Ben Mohammed Nawwar Said el Islam".

Al-Quds Al-Arabi reported that the letter was accompanied by a will using the nom de guerre Saif ul-Dinn el-Tunisi, or "Sword of the Faith, the Tunisian." He called on his family to contribute to a holy war "with their souls and money," according to the paper. The will was dated July 5, 2000. It is common for recruits to al-Qaida to make such a will shortly after joining the organization, as a statement of their intention to die for the Islamic cause.

Suspect detained for questioning
Late Monday, the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) detained a suspect in Duisburg who had allegedly received a phone call from the attacker several hours prior to the blast. The federal prosecutor's office issued a statement saying, "The reason for starting investigations in Germany was a tip from Tunisian officials that the suspected perpetrator made a telephone call to Germany a few hours before the deliberate attack."

The suspect, a German convert to Islam, had apparently already been under surveillance on suspicion of links to al-Qaida. The German magazine Stern reported that the authorities had recorded the phone call from Tunisia, apparently made by the driver of the truck that caused the blast. The suspect was identified in the German media as Michael Christian G.

The newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung claimed to have a transcript of the intercepted phone call, in which the caller identifies himself as Saif. The newspaper reported that the caller, believed to be Nizar Nawar, a 25 year-old Tunisian, is heard to say, "Don't forget to pray for me."

Sueddeutsche Zeitung also reported that the Tunisian officials told German investigators that the phone number of the German suspect had been found in the memory of a mobile phone seized from an uncle of Nawar. The paper said that the significance of the intercepted conversation became clear to German officials only after the blast.

"We believe that the person whose name is associated with the claim of responsibility is the alleged attacker," Frauke Scheuten, a spokeswoman for German federal prosecutors, said Wednesday. She said that police had searched five homes in Duisburg, Muelheim and Haan, near Duesseldorf, under orders of Prosecutor-General Kay Nehm, who on Monday assumed responsibility for German investigations.

The suspect who recieved the phone call was freed Tuesday, after federal prosecutors said they lacked sufficient evidence to hold him. Duisburg, the city where he was detained, was the base of an Algerian terrorist cell linked to Ahmed Ressam, who was convicted in a 1999 plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport.

Meanwhile, the French Interior Ministry announced that the Tunisian government had positively identified the driver of the truck that exploded outside the Ghriba synagogue as 25-year-old Tunisian Nizar Naouar. A ministry official said the name was given to them by Tunisian authorities, and that he had lived in Lyon for a time.

The man's relatives said Wednesday that they had not heard from him in weeks, but that he had gone to Canada for a while to study.

Sources: Associated Press, Reuters, Washington Post, Sueddeutsche Zeitung, LA Times

147 posted on 06/02/2004 1:21:09 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: wirestripper
A refinery is a different matter. the security is not as tight and they are regular visitors to plant like that.

You wouldn't have to even go to a refinery, there are enough tank farms around in coastal areas.

148 posted on 06/02/2004 1:24:17 AM PDT by Bon mots
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BTTT.


149 posted on 06/02/2004 4:20:36 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Travis McGee

Many States still arrest and prosecute drivers that go armed to protect themselves and their cargo. As long as the hijackers are wearing their seat belts though, they won't be bothered.


150 posted on 06/02/2004 5:04:36 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: babygene

You got it backwards 5 parts propane one part O2 make big boom.


151 posted on 06/02/2004 5:49:50 AM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: eastforker
I get 3.6:1, O2:C3H8...
152 posted on 06/02/2004 5:59:47 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets; eastforker

whoops 1.8:1


153 posted on 06/02/2004 6:02:33 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets
by wt

or 6.5:1 by vol...

154 posted on 06/02/2004 6:08:12 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: eastforker




Plus, there are 37 non-power nuclear reactors currently operating in the U.S.
These smaller reactors are in locations such as univerities and other organizations where research or training is conducted. Research reactors produce radioisotopes for nuclear medicine, are used to train people in the nuclear sciences, and are used as a laboratory tool, as a producer of byproduct material, or as a source of radiation for experiments.

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155 posted on 06/02/2004 6:32:10 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: mewzilla

Anybody know whatever became of that NJ stolen truck???
Was it ever recovered, or is it still missing? Seems the story just dropped from the news.


156 posted on 06/02/2004 6:41:34 AM PDT by USNFighting31st
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To: spunkets; Bon mots; glock rocks; Eaker; Trinity_Tx
Many States still arrest and prosecute drivers that go armed to protect themselves and their cargo.

Incredible!

157 posted on 06/02/2004 7:08:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Calpernia; deport; sinkspur; Eaker; Flyer; yall

158 posted on 06/02/2004 7:43:09 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: FairOpinion; Calpernia; devolve; Happy2BMe
According to a report by Air Security, U.K. armed services officials raised the threat level for U.K. military installations to "severe" after receiving intelligence that terrorists with links to al-Qaeda are planning to stage suicide truck bomb attacks against a U.K. military base within the next two months. Military officials stated that terrorists are planning to drive a truck packed with explosives into military headquarters. The intelligence indicated London is a particular target, as are upcoming D-Day celebrations. "

The terrorists could be planning on similar attacks here too.

Easy, girl ! It'll be okay .....


159 posted on 06/02/2004 8:31:01 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: eastforker

Nope...

This is for gasoline and air, not propane, but propane is similar:

"When air and gasoline are mixed together and ignited, the chemical reaction requires a certain amount of air to completely burn all of the fuel. The exact amount is 14.7 lbs of air for every pound of fuel. This is called the "stoichiometric" air/fuel ratio. It's also referred to the the Greek letter "lambda."

When lambda equals one, you have a 14.7:1 stoichiometric air/fuel ratio and ideal combustion. When the air/fuel ratio is greater than 14.7:1, lambda also will be greater than one and the engine will have a lean mixture."


160 posted on 06/02/2004 8:34:57 AM PDT by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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