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CNN: Bill Clinton VP Contender (What Constitution?)
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Posted on 06/04/2004 12:33:41 PM PDT by Republican Red

On CNN's website, Bill Clinton is listed as a VP Contender with the ending sentence in his credentials as follows:

CNN:
While federal law prohibits a person from seeking a third presidential term, the Constitution does not specify whether or not a former commander in chief can become vice president.

U.S. CONSTITUTION:
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bs; chickennoodlenews; cnn; ignorantmedia; kerry; veep; x42
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To: Republican Red

Where is the Barf alert?


41 posted on 06/04/2004 1:21:54 PM PDT by elephant
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To: ScottFromSpokane; sc2_ct

"I think I know where you get the "ten years" thing, but I don't believe it's actually in the Constitution. It comes from the possibility of serving two years of an unexpired term, plus two terms of one's own, for a total of ten years."



Exactly, 10 years is not a constitutional maximum. A friend of mine once stated (as an aside) in a footnote to a law journal article that there was a 10-year max for serving as president, and he later had to admit that in theory people could serve well over 10 years as president.


42 posted on 06/04/2004 1:22:32 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Positive
As I've read the two amendments, what they mean to me is that Clinton could become President if he were Vice-President, but then he could not run for re-election.

And don't think Kerry wouldn't be sleeping with one eye open (and not just due to botox swelling).

43 posted on 06/04/2004 1:22:41 PM PDT by admiralsn (Thank you all WW2 veterans!)
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To: admiralsn
Here is the entire 22nd Amendment. There is no ten-year limit.
Amendment XXII

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.

As I said before, the supposed "ten-year limit" comes from the possibility of filling two years of an unexpired term, plus two elected terms. But whoever came up with that idea didn't consider the possibility of a former President succeeding to the office.
44 posted on 06/04/2004 1:23:09 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: Republican Red

NOT!!! Kerry would like to continue to live. He's got to figure if Hill or Billy are VP's, he's a goner.


45 posted on 06/04/2004 1:23:55 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Republican Red
I disagree.

ARTICLE II

SECTION I
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

Ammendment XII

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

AMMENDMENT XXIII

Section 1.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once...............

Seems prety clear to me that there is a loophole allowing anyone who meets the requirements for the Presidency in ARTICLE II, Section 1, including former presidents, to run for the Vice Presidency or be apointed to it if there is a vacancy, and to serve as President if the President dies or os removed.

SO9

46 posted on 06/04/2004 1:24:20 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: Rider on the Rain

I believe the Speaker of the House is next in line (and the House can pick whomever they want for that position--it doesn't have to be a Member of Congress)...so in theory Clinton could be chosen Speaker, and the President and Vice President could resign simultaneously, and Clinton could become President. In that case, there wouldn't be any time limit--he could serve the remainder of the term. Fortunately that's never going to happen.


47 posted on 06/04/2004 1:24:40 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ken5050

If you take a look at the actual site, you see that they list just about anyone and everyone as possible VP contenders. I mean Tom Brokaw is listed as a possible canadate. Come on!! That would be equivalent to admitting that there is a media bias, which will never happen.


48 posted on 06/04/2004 1:28:57 PM PDT by usapatriot28
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To: Republican Red
This is yet another example of the gross factual stupidity of CNN's editors and reporters. The Constitution plainly states that no one is "eligible" to be Vice President who is not also "eligible" to be President. So Billyjeff Clinton cannot run for or be elected to either office.

If the editors / reporters had a copy of the Constitution as amended available in their offices, and if they could read, the answer would be obvious.

Congressman Billybob

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49 posted on 06/04/2004 1:30:32 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Republican Red

It'll never happen, no matter whether the Constitution forbids it or not. Oh, people will always talk about getting Bill Clinton on the ticket, as long as he's alive, but I doubt anybody's actually dumb enough to pick him as a running mate. As loath as they are to admit it, every Democratic politician in America--Kerry, Hillary, you name 'em--knows that being the only thing standing between Bubba and another shot at the White House would be gravely hazardous to his or her health.


50 posted on 06/04/2004 1:30:43 PM PDT by RichInOC (...jumping into the lion pit at the zoo naked and slathered in A-1 Sauce might be less dangerous.)
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To: Rider on the Rain

Have you wondered since Henry Kissinger?


51 posted on 06/04/2004 1:33:30 PM PDT by ASA Vet (The "FreeRepublic French" would rather our grandchildren decide which culture is to survive.)
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To: usapatriot28

It also means..Kerry's screwed...


52 posted on 06/04/2004 1:34:03 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: cripplecreek

"In support of this argument, one might also cite the 12th Amendment, which provides, in pertinent part, that "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

President Clinton is certainly ineligible to be elected to another presidential term, based on the 22nd Amendment. Some might infer from the 12th Amendment that he is therefore also ineligible to be elected to a vice-presidential term."

INFER?? Are they Demented? It EXPLICITLY says if you can't be elected president, you can't be elected VP! That's the point of the 12th Amendment!

Hello Left! Youse is Stoopid!


53 posted on 06/04/2004 1:34:36 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Phantom Lord
Well since the left continues to say Bush wasn't elected, when he wins in November, by their measure it will be his first elected term and thus can run for reelection in 2008!

Actually he would still be bound by the 21st Amendment: ". . . no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once."

54 posted on 06/04/2004 1:36:54 PM PDT by olorin
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To: ASA Vet
Have you wondered since Henry Kissinger?

Mad Madeleine.

55 posted on 06/04/2004 1:36:59 PM PDT by Rider on the Rain
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To: olorin

Oops! Make that 22nd Amendment.


56 posted on 06/04/2004 1:37:59 PM PDT by olorin
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To: Frank_Discussion
INFER?? Are they Demented? It EXPLICITLY says if you can't be elected president, you can't be elected VP! That's the point of the 12th Amendment!

Thats how I see it, too..

57 posted on 06/04/2004 1:50:47 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Terrence Maculiffe-Ariolimax columbianus (hint- its a gastropod.....)
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To: cardinal4

This thread and this one, too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1147708/posts

are making me crazy.

Spinning Presstitutes make me dizzy, Lying Presstitutes make me mad!


58 posted on 06/04/2004 1:55:17 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion

"It EXPLICITLY says if you can't be elected president, you can't be elected VP! That's the point of the 12th Amendment!"



That's not what the 12th amendment says. The 12th Amendment says that no person constitutionally ineligible to the presidency shall be eligible to that of the vice presidency. Some people argue that if you are ineligible to be *elected* president, you should be ineligible to be *elected* VP. But that's not what the 12th Am. says---only if you are ineligible to *become* president are you ineligible to *become* VP, and the amendment does not require any additional qualifications for being elected VP. So Clinton could be constitutionally elected VP, and if the president died he would become president again. It's not going to happen, but it's not unconstitutional.


59 posted on 06/04/2004 2:05:24 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Republican Red

Kerry knows he's a dead man if Bill is VP, a sure victim of Clintoncide.


60 posted on 06/04/2004 2:12:23 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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