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Blame Canada
NRO ^ | June 29, 2004 | Eli Lehrer

Posted on 06/29/2004 3:29:57 PM PDT by neverdem

Our northern neighbors may try to cut gun freedoms here.

Canada's two major parties — the long-ruling Liberals and the new Conservative Party of Canada — remained deadlocked after the polls closed last night. In all likelihood, that's bad news for gun ownership and public safety up north.

The Liberals, who have gone from a 168-seat majority in the 308-seat House of Commons to a plurality of about 135 seats, will almost certainly form a coalition with the socialist New Democratic Party (NDP) to rule Canada. The NDP peddles a watered-down form of socialism that's heavy on interest-group politics but moderate overall: The party has few major spending plans, and even proposes some tax cuts. But the NDP is dead set on taking away Canadians' guns and even reducing gun freedoms in the U.S. "We're proposing going across the border to the U.S. and actively engaging in lobbying to have gun-control laws in the U.S. strengthened," NDP leader Jack Layton explained at a May campaign rally in Winnipeg. And, given that the Liberals will almost certainly have to deal with him to join a government, more gun control — which imposes reasonably few monetary burdens — may well become reality.

It's an easy bone for Liberal Prime Minister Paul Martin to throw to his coalition partners, but it's a bad idea. While Canada has banned most handgun ownership since 1977, Canadians remain even more likely to hunt and shoot than their American counterparts. The NDP wants none of this: It proposes taking away vaguely defined "assault weapons" (this likely refers to hunting weapons, since private ownership of machine guns is already illegal in Canada) and lobbying U.S. state and federal governments to take away their own citizens' guns.

In addition to being awfully arrogant, this plan is ironic, since more crime probably flows from Canada to the U.S. than vice versa: The nation has an overall crime rate half again higher than the United States'. Toronto, once the safest large city in North America, now has more muggings, car thefts, and violent assaults per capita than New York City. All of Canada's major provinces would rank among the 20 most dangerous American states. Since American crime rates peaked in the early 1990s, crime has fallen in 48 American states and over 80 percent of America's major cities. Meanwhile, it has risen in six of Canada's ten major providences and seven of its ten largest cities. The reasons for this divide are complex, but it's notable that the United States imprisons wrongdoers at about five times Canada's rate and has about a quarter more police on a per-capita basis. Canada, meanwhile, can boast only of a national gun-registration database that cost 1,000 times more than originally projected.

Indeed, international comparisons lend credence to the idea that Canada's existing gun controls aren't helping, and that more gun control will make things worse. Both the United Kingdom and Australia have seen crime soar after they imposed more severe versions of the gun-grabbing legislation the NDP faction in Canada's government will push. Both nations, much safer than the United States through the 1970s, are significantly more dangerous today.

Canadians, whose Charter of Rights and Freedoms contains no right to keep and bear arms and whose legal system offers little in the way of judicial review, will almost certainly have at least some of their guns taken away when their newly organized government gets down to business. So long as a Republican remains in the White House, Americans probably have little to fear from whatever lobbyists Ottawa might send to push for gun control in Washington. Even John Kerry — who may well run on the first Democratic platform in a generation that doesn't call for major new gun control laws — probably wouldn't be swayed. But, at the very least, those who support grabbing America's guns will have a powerful foreign champion in their corner.

Gun control has failed in Canada and everywhere else governments have tried to impose it. Canadians have reasonable concerns about crime, but their next government's likely gun-control plans won't help things.

— Eli Lehrer is an associate fellow of the Sagamore Institute.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guncontrol; gunprohibition; newdemocraticparty; secondamendment

1 posted on 06/29/2004 3:29:58 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: CanadianBloodAmericanHeart; kanawa; *bang_list

BANG


2 posted on 06/29/2004 3:31:26 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Canadians have the US to cover their butts if they're ever invaded. We'd better change that policy. If they decide to disarm themselves, they should be on their own. Maybe they can throw maple leaves at their enemies.
3 posted on 06/29/2004 3:38:28 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: concerned about politics

yet another reason why canada can suck my balls


4 posted on 06/29/2004 4:00:26 PM PDT by porkchopexpress
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To: porkchopexpress

watch out what you ask for...


5 posted on 06/29/2004 4:09:49 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: concerned about politics
And who do you think would invade the second-largest country in the world? Iceland? San Marino?

In all of its history Canada has been "invaded" about half a dozen times. Always by the US.
6 posted on 06/29/2004 4:27:59 PM PDT by drtom
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To: neverdem
Canadians, whose Charter of Rights and Freedoms contains no right to keep and bear arms and whose legal system offers little in the way of judicial review, will almost certainly have at least some of their guns taken away when their newly organized government gets down to business.

Any Canadian who wants to keep and bear arms can simply move to Alberta. The provincial government has already announced that it will not enforce the national gun registry laws, and the Federal government in Ottawa is so utterly incapable of enforcing these laws themselves that a number of Alberta legislators make a very public point of packing unregistered firearms when they show up for work in the capital every day.

7 posted on 06/29/2004 4:40:13 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: drtom

That could be bad news for them, should we think of it again.

We've gottten a lot better at that whole "invading thing" since the 1800s.


8 posted on 06/29/2004 4:42:16 PM PDT by SWO (IRAQ is a Campaign in WW IV, the ISLAMOFACISM War)
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To: SWO

Oh, exactly. In fact, some people are thinking of it already. So I guess the whole "protection" thing is just a myth. But it makes for a great argument, true or not.


9 posted on 06/29/2004 4:45:00 PM PDT by drtom
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To: porkchopexpress

Well put.


10 posted on 06/29/2004 4:53:00 PM PDT by ProudGOP
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To: Alberta's Child
a number of Alberta legislators make a very public point of packing unregistered firearms when they show up for work in the capital every day.

Good for them!

11 posted on 06/29/2004 5:20:46 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: concerned about politics

No you are wrong...we have a tank too....Oh wait, we got rid of that. Traded it in to fund wind farm expansion.


12 posted on 06/29/2004 5:52:22 PM PDT by CanadianBloodAmericanHeart
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To: neverdem

>>But the NDP is dead set on taking away Canadians' guns and even reducing gun freedoms in the U.S. "We're proposing going across the border to the U.S. and actively engaging in lobbying to have gun-control laws in the U.S. strengthened," NDP leader Jack Layton explained at a May campaign rally in Winnipeg. <<

Do we actively lobby in Canada? Jack may just get his face busted.


13 posted on 06/29/2004 7:02:19 PM PDT by B4Ranch (We're going to take things away from you (guns) on behalf of the common good." Hillary 6/29/2004)
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To: neverdem

We Americans have no wish to become Canadians. They can keep their socialism and gun phobia up North and stay the heck out of our business. We'll protect civilization. :)


14 posted on 06/29/2004 11:16:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
If those Communadian maggots try pushing their Socialist filth on us down here, we should start fomenting a revolt in Quebec and among Canada's Indians, and secessionist movements in the Western provinces.

Turn about is fair play, scumbags. You try mucking with our politics, you better be ready to have us play the other side of the chessboard...

15 posted on 06/30/2004 12:19:58 AM PDT by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: neverdem

Time to close our southern AND northern borders.


16 posted on 07/01/2004 1:21:22 AM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver

Happy Canada Day to our Canadian Freepers!


17 posted on 07/01/2004 1:39:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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