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Black Children Denied IQ Tests in California
Fox News ^ | 7/9/2004 | Fox News

Posted on 07/09/2004 10:24:10 AM PDT by Sergio

SAN JOSE, Calif. — The United States may have come a long way in the fight against institutionalized racism but in California, black children are still being denied access to an important educational tool.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: blackstudents; iq; standardized; test
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Let me know if it's OK to post full aticles from Fox News and I will update.

I wonder how long it will be till we hear the cry of, "What does a white woman know about the needs of a black child."

Best Regards

Sergio

1 posted on 07/09/2004 10:24:11 AM PDT by Sergio
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To: Sergio
This is hilarious!

The only reason blacks were "denied" IQ tests in the first place was because back when they were administered, blacks did so poorly that some liberal judges made it verboten to test them!

2 posted on 07/09/2004 10:28:26 AM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: Sergio

This is a bit of a load. Black activists in California lobbied for and got this exemption. the lack of testing is due to their own negligent activism.


3 posted on 07/09/2004 10:29:00 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty

You can post Fox News fully.


4 posted on 07/09/2004 10:31:12 AM PDT by sdk7x7 ("This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end.")
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To: Sergio

When CA refued to recognize Ebonics,
as a language, the IQ tests were dropped
at the demand of democrats and blacks.


5 posted on 07/09/2004 10:32:06 AM PDT by onyx (Kerry/Edwards: It's the hair, stupid.)
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To: sdk7x7

Thanks for that!


6 posted on 07/09/2004 10:34:03 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: bikepacker67
And a big reason why they would do poorly is the cultural climate they come from.. In order to be relevant, an IQ test must be based on the child's environment - a farm kid and an inner-city kid would each have trouble with an IQ test designed for the other's environment.
7 posted on 07/09/2004 10:34:08 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: trebb

that's true


8 posted on 07/09/2004 10:36:43 AM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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To: trebb

Every IQ test I have taken was pretty straight forward. Most of the Q's are visual and not verbal (word play). I don't see how they have anything to do with environment.


9 posted on 07/09/2004 10:40:03 AM PDT by mlbford2 (Sorry for spelling errors, I'm a product of a state university)
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To: mlbford2

Exactly.

Their not designed to test knowledge, but rather abstract thought.


10 posted on 07/09/2004 10:42:36 AM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: mlbford2

Take a psychology class and you will understand.


11 posted on 07/09/2004 10:43:07 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: bikepacker67

What is the point of testing a six year old's 'abstract thought'? And why was the IQ test traditionally been used to label generations of black children educable retarded? If the score of 85 is supposed designate someone that's retarded then there's a lot of retarded black people out there who don't know they are retards. It's a liberal backlash to racialists who used the IQ test to keep down black kids, except now the liberals are doing an even better job themselves.


12 posted on 07/09/2004 10:45:48 AM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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What is the point of testing a six year old's 'abstract thought'?

Because a lifetime's worth of problem solving depends upon ones proficiency in abstract thought.

I'm not a "racialist" but why is it that we accept that different racial groups vary physically - except above the neck?

13 posted on 07/09/2004 10:51:05 AM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: trebb

~~Take a psychology class and you will understand.~~

I've taken plenty of them. I was a Psychology major before I figured out it was a worthless degree (ended up with MS Chemistry, BS Microbiology). And I stick with my original statement.


15 posted on 07/09/2004 10:53:20 AM PDT by mlbford2 (Sorry for spelling errors, I'm a product of a state university)
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To: bikepacker67

Give me a break. Did you know you can improve your IQ score? Mine was never tested when I was in grade school, but the first time I tested it my score was 100. The last real sit down IQ test I took my score was 130 so spare me.
Right so what do you plan on saying to black children about 'racial differences'?


16 posted on 07/09/2004 10:54:18 AM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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"And a big reason why they would do poorly is the cultural climate they come from.. In order to be relevant, an IQ test must be based on the child's environment - a farm kid and an inner-city kid would each have trouble with an IQ test designed for the other's environment."

You forgot the < Sarcasm > tag ---- I hope!

I was not brought up in the USA nor lived here most of my life - in the USA, I've lived in southern Arkansas, New Jersey, Texas, and California.

My IQ was tested in High School at 138 - and in the military at 148..

Yeah I guess if you have no "local experience" you do real poorly?

BTW I was brought up in a country that was run by a dictator first, then a communist.

So much for leftist lies about testing.


17 posted on 07/09/2004 10:54:22 AM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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My word today is a banner day for accusing people of being leftist. You really think 100% of intelligence is biological? That environment has NOTHING to do with what children learn? And why isn't KNOWLEDGE tested more than abstract thought?


18 posted on 07/09/2004 11:00:12 AM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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To: cyborg
Did you know you can improve your IQ score?

So what?

I can increase my endurance by running. Doesn't mean I'll be winning any marathons any time soon.

19 posted on 07/09/2004 11:00:28 AM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: bikepacker67

Abstract thought is a major key to success. Good old fasion 'hard work' just don't cut it anymore. If you want to work in a 'beehive' environment then you might get away with it, but if you want to be succesful on your own, being able to think outside the box is crucial. This is from a guy who has started 4 businesses (some worked and some didn't). Note: abstract thought alone is not a guarantee to success. Hard work and the will to pull yourself off the ground during failure is also crucial.


20 posted on 07/09/2004 11:02:28 AM PDT by mlbford2 (Sorry for spelling errors, I'm a product of a state university)
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