Posted on 07/09/2004 5:05:53 PM PDT by NZerFromHK
Roger Douglas was the Labour Finance Minister from 1984 to 1988 that started rolling the ball of radical economic and social welfare reforms in New Zealand. His reforms, dubbed "Rogernomics", has revitalized the nation by they now at risk as the current Labour government is trying to dismantle the reforms pieces by pieces using methods familiar for Americans who know US Democrats strategies.
Roger Douglas was a committed socialist Labour member who was mugged by reality and embarked on these reforms. Unfortunately the Labour Party now regards him as a traitor and has banished his periods of economic and social reforms from their official history. (Imagine that a very liberal Democrat, such as Nancy Pelosi, who goes into power and then sells off Amtrak, slashes the top tax rates permanently from 39% to 25%, abolishes all agricultural and industrial subsidies, corporatizes all US airports, reorganized 90% of all federal departments with outsourcing and corporatization and cut all federal employee numbers by over 50%, you will get a better picture of how radical Rogernomics is by NZ Standards)
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Read about the brouhaha in this country over remarks made by Bill Cosby.
The truth is the truth everywhere and the same remedies apply.
Roger Douglas may be the best-ever economist to have ever entered a parliament, anywhere on Earth.
Don Brash will be New Zealand's next Prime Minister.
If the New Zealand people and the New Commonwealth of the [Escaped-ANZUS] English-Speaking Peoples and its only worthy ally, Israel and the Judeo-Christian/Western Civilization we vanguard are really blessed, Rodney Hide will be his Deputy.
And the "Maori/Pakeha problem" is being solved -- even as we speak -- in the bedrooms of Island Bay's, Bendigo's, Bowral's Bondi Beach's, Brizzie's, Broadbeach's and Balina's boutique bed and breakfasts!
Blessings -- Brian
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excellent posts *LOL*
I second cyborg's comment: I think Mr Douglas's speech ought to be compulsory read by all US Democrats as his prescription of alleviating social problems among the Maori people applies equally well to African Americans, Hispanics and Native Americans. Moreover, he was a former committed socialist and card-carrying member of the Socialist International, something which even Barbara Lee cannot boast about. (I need to add something that may sound offensive to some American conservatives. I know a lot of you are wary of Hillary Clinton's policies: me too, but I admit she is not as left as we often make her out to be - she is no Helen Clark or Lionel Jospin. Remember she is a hawk on terrorism - something which definitely put her out of the left by Western European standards)
I like Donald Brash's speech about all this. Will have to dig around for it but it's great. I wish I saved the freepmail I sent to shaggyeel about this. It was pretty good but Brash's speech was much better.
http://www.national.org.nz/
I don't think the issues with the Maori are nearly as troublesome as what the US has to deal with. There was no slavery (as far as I know of) there but the Maori situation is probably a lot closer to the issues of American Indians. Just MHO.
<< .... the Maori situation is probably a lot closer to the issues of American Indians. >>
The "Maori situation" is entirely the creation of Socialist-Internationalist enabled and facilitated historical revisionists and divisiveness-promoters [And other shop-steward-mentality Limey immigrants] who both delusionally-fantasized and taught to several generations of school children an entirely-fabulist Maori "history" and incited the half of New Zealand's population who are of below-average intelligence and such other Labour Party supporters as those too mean-spirited and/or greedy to be otherwise politically inclined to become disgruntled and angry at and by delusional "wrongs" and "deprivations."
Actual pre-Abel Tasman/James Cook/Civilization Maori history [Of endemic warfare, canabilism and lives gruesome, brutal and short] and the actual history of [Generally wonderful] relationships among all of New Zealand's immigrant peoples bear no relationship whatsoever to the horrors conjured up by New Zealand's ludicrous-left-wing Labour Party racists.
Kiwis will soon shrug off their moron-and-self-serving socialists, will restore race relations to the harmonious state they once enjoyed -- and will turn their nation back toward the Civilized world.
Blessings -- Brian
Kiwis will soon shrug off their moron-and-self-serving socialists, will restore race relations to the harmonious state they once enjoyed -- and will turn their nation back toward the Civilized world.
*** From your lips to God's ears. I would hate to see NZ descend into the race baiting sewer political situation that I observe stateside.
This could complicate the issue I agree, but I believe any collective responsbility the United States has for the burden of slavery was swept in 1865. And let us admit that racism could play a part in what Af-Americans had to face (and some even still exists today), but then again Maori also suffered (and suffers in some instances) from racism so I would guess the situation is the same.
After what happened during the civil Rights era, I believe the American blacks are in the same standing as Maori people in NZ today but that's just my own 2 cents.
,,, the Maoris wouldn't want you to know it, but before New Zealand was colonized, they were one of the biggest group of slave traders in the southseas. Inter-tribal hatred has now simmered down to old scores being settled if there was ever a revolution here, but it's not all that visible these days. The Moriori were much worse off under pre-European colonization.
They should be thankful in not so many ways that they didn't suffer the fate of Africans and the Aboriginies,etc.
Roger really has a fantastic mind. If only we had more politicians like him.
Don Brash is the one thing that will inspire me to vote for National, rather than Act, at the next election (I'm still allowed to vote even though I am in the mother country now - hooray!)
Act seems to have been getting itself into all sorts of trouble recently - and I'm not just talking about Donna. The leadership thing has caused them to lack a bit of coherency and momentum when it comes to their policies. The best thing that could happen to Act at the moment is for National to win the next election and make Act its coalition partner. Much better chance of that happening with Brash as leader than Bill.
As for the Maori thing, I wish that more Maori would realise that theirs is a culture that most NZers cherish.
I was home from work for 3 days last week on study leave (I have to sit a qualified lawyers transfer test to qualify as an English solicitor). I live next to a primary school. On Wednesday afternoon, I thought I was going through a bit of a homesick phase because I could hear the haka. Eventually I realised that actually I could hear the haka - I looked out the window and the hall of the primary school was full of kids doing the haka. I got all misty-eyed. The same thing happened on Thursday and on Friday, just before my exam, strains of Tu tira mai nga iwi drifted through the window. These small children, at a primary school in Islington (not your most affluent London suburb, unless you count Tony Blair, and he sends his kids elsewhere to school) were learning our culture.
It binds us and identifies us as kiwis everywhere. I went to watch the rugby sevens at Twickenham a month or so ago and some english blokes were giving me a rough time about the number of Islanders on the team ("you guys have to import your players from the island colonies"). I told him that, while some of them may not have been born in NZ, NZ was the largest of the pacific islands and was full of islanders - it's part of our culture, and not just Maori.
There are bad sorts all over the world. Crime is not a matter of skin colour, nor is poverty. Perhaps if the lefty activists stopped rubbing statistics in every Maori's face that said "you are more likely than your white neighbour to commit a crime, be a teenage pregnancy statistic, whatever", then maybe they will fight harder to get out of the stereotype, rather than accept it as something they can't prevent.
Oh dear, I have ranted a bit - sorry all!
Long live Roger.
,,, their policies have remained consistent and unfaultering despite the question of leadership, which was resolved a month ago - in fact, their policies are so good that NATIONAL has burgled them lock, stock and ammo. ACT, having positioned themselves specifically as a Party of influence knows it can work well with King Don when he takes over next election. The country will be in good order by the time you're deported back [LOL].
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,,, even that would be wrong. Go to their website and tell me what's changed. Their problem has always been getting their message across to people who vote Labour because that's how their parents voted... the same people who can tell you the last rugby score or the Lotto numbers but can't explain why the government they voted for are running a $NZ7,4b surplus and not paying teachers, nurses and medical specialists enough to stay in this country.
I'm glad that Don Brash has revitalized National although I'm still inclined to vote Act on party vote. The situation pre-Brash was too much like Canada where not too long ago their main centre-right party, the Progressive Conservatives, was too wimpy and controlled by their Red Tories faction - kind of like our Simon Upton controlling National. The Canadian Alliance Party was the main principled party on the right (similar to our own Act Party) and has split their votes on the right (compounding the plight was that Canada is still using First Past the Post) and disasters followed.
They have recently merged into one party (Conservative party of Canada) and the Red Tories had gone into the Liberals camp. Though they did quite poorly in the election 2 weeks ago it was a dramatic improvement from 2000. Bearing in mind that our centre-right attracts major urban voters to a degree that our Canadian counterparts couldn't, I'm cautiously optimistic as to what will happen by the end of next year.
,,, don't speak like there's something to lose. We have to take our country back from the grips of Marxist lesbian rule. You'll note that spending on roads and infrastructure is now being announced and Treaty issues haven't got the media's attention. They're shifting the emphasis to spending on real issues as the focus is on the major budget surplus. Real taxpayers must see real spending if Labour has any chance next election. Cullen won't give individuals or companies tax cuts - he forgets that Shipley promised those and never delivered. That was a nail in her coffin.
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