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Pilot Arrested After Botched Landing
Associated Press ^ | July 11, 2004 | ap

Posted on 07/11/2004 2:01:53 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar

SANTA CLARITA, Calif. -- A single-engine plane trying to make an emergency landing on a freeway Saturday clipped a van and flipped upside down, and the pilot was arrested for flying under the influence of alcohol, authorities said.

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1 posted on 07/11/2004 2:01:53 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Whoops


2 posted on 07/11/2004 2:05:51 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (God bless our Veterans!!! And God bless America!!!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The legal level for pilots is below .04 percent.

a pilot can legally have any alcohol in their system ?

3 posted on 07/11/2004 2:06:46 AM PDT by smonk
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To: smonk

Dunno! I thought it was a bit strange myself.


4 posted on 07/11/2004 2:08:05 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar; smonk; Aeronaut; bootless
Perhaps the pilot had just taken cough medicine.

And I dispute that this was a "botched landing". The pilot walked (or staggered) away. Shame about the Ercoupe, though...

5 posted on 07/11/2004 4:30:09 AM PDT by snopercod (What we have lost will not be returned to us.)
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To: smonk
alchohol occurs naturally in the human body, as do canniboids.

It is impossible not to have any in your system.

6 posted on 07/11/2004 4:33:45 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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7 posted on 07/11/2004 4:35:08 AM PDT by Aeronaut (Edwards is simply not qualified to be one heartbeat from the presidency.)
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To: smonk
From CFR14 FAR 91.17

§ 91.17 Alcohol or drugs.

(a) No person may act or attempt to act as a crewmember of a civil aircraft—

(1) Within 8 hours after the consumption of any alcoholic beverage;

(2) While under the influence of alcohol;

(3) While using any drug that affects the person's faculties in any way contrary to safety; or

(4) While having .04 percent by weight or more alcohol in the blood.

8 posted on 07/11/2004 5:46:50 AM PDT by Archangelsk (15 out of 19. The House of Saud must be driven into the desert.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

So was it really an emergency landing, i.e. an engine failure, or was he just drunk?


9 posted on 07/11/2004 6:40:59 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: Aeronaut
Good Morning!

Are you going to be at Airventure this year?

10 posted on 07/11/2004 6:57:26 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Archangelsk; smonk; Jet Jaguar; Aeronaut; B4Ranch

<< (a) No person may act or attempt to act as a crewmember of a civil aircraft—

(1) Within 8 hours after the consumption of any alcoholic beverage; >>

Or, as we airframe drivers are wont to proclaim -- and to maintain:

Eight inches FRom bottles to throttles!

Blessings -- Brian


11 posted on 07/11/2004 7:08:56 AM PDT by Brian Allen (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16 -- So mote it be!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Maybe he missed a step in his checklist which is why the engine died.


12 posted on 07/11/2004 7:33:20 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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Did the engine die was my question....

If it did, putting the plane down without hurting himself or anyone else would be a pretty good accomplishment sober.


13 posted on 07/11/2004 7:37:14 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: mvpel
I clicked to the source.... it did die.

South told investigators his plane's engine died and he began making an emergency landing on northbound lanes of Interstate 5. Drivers slowed down to make way but South lost control when the plane's wing clipped a van, said Officer Brian Joy of the California Highway Patrol.

14 posted on 07/11/2004 7:38:20 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: Brian Allen

But as your FOM would say 12 hours (however the smart throttle jockey, OK auto-throttle jockey would increase that to 24. Hypoxia does strange things to the body).


15 posted on 07/11/2004 7:42:18 AM PDT by Archangelsk (15 out of 19. The House of Saud must be driven into the desert.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

"South told investigators his plane's engine died and he began making an emergency landing on northbound lanes of Interstate 5."

His engine shouldn't have died in the first place if the plane was properly maintained. Or, perhaps, if it wasn't an antique like so many affordable general aviation planes are.


16 posted on 07/11/2004 7:44:37 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
His engine shouldn't have died in the first place if the plane was properly maintained. Or, perhaps, if it wasn't an antique like so many affordable general aviation planes are.

So as long as we have good maintenance we don't have to bother learning those pesky emergency procedures because engines will never die? Whew.... that saves a lot of work doesn't it.

like so many affordable general aviation planes are.

And your definition of affordable is?

17 posted on 07/11/2004 7:50:46 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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Found his registration record. Marc A. South of Eloy, Arizona - the N number is N543B, and the aircraft is a Beech D18S, manufactured in 1947, with its certificate having been issued on April 16, 1975.

The engine was a Pratt & Whitney R985, and has no airworthiness date recorded.

And assuming that this is the same person, there's also N9393R, a 1975 Cessna A188B, built in 1975, in the "crop duster" category.


18 posted on 07/11/2004 7:54:53 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: smonk
The legal level for pilots is below .04 percent. a pilot can legally have any alcohol in their system ?

It's not that there is a legal amount.... there isn't. but .04 is the smallest detectible amount with the tests used. The 'limit' is more of an attempt at regulatory precision than a tolerable amount. The other regulations indicating 8 hours from bottle to throttle and other regulations do no allow for a "small drink" right before flying.

19 posted on 07/11/2004 7:57:59 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: Northern Yankee
Are you going to be at Airventure this year?

Usually I do. I had to cancel this year because Thursday my wife is having surgery performed on her right hand. I can't be gone for two weeks during that ordeal. I might get there for a day if we (MNDOT Aeronautics) have a VIP flight. (I'd be a pilot, not a VIP).

20 posted on 07/11/2004 8:19:22 AM PDT by Aeronaut (Edwards is simply not qualified to be one heartbeat from the presidency.)
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