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Democrats: Schwarzenegger Comment Sexist (take offense at the term "girlie men")
Associated Press ^ | Mon, Jul 19, 2004 | TIM MOLLOY

Posted on 07/19/2004 5:28:53 AM PDT by presidio9

LOS ANGELES - Democrats aren't amused by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites)'s use of the mocking term "girlie men" to describe some lawmakers, although a spokesman for the governor said no apology would be forthcoming.

Schwarzenegger dished out the insult at a rally Saturday as he claimed Democrats were delaying the budget by catering to special interests. Democrats protested that the remark was sexist and homophobic.

"If they don't have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, 'I don't want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the unions, the trial lawyers ... if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie men," Schwarzenegger said to the cheering crowd at a mall food court in Ontario.

The governor lifted the term from a long-running "Saturday Night Live" skit in which two pompous, Schwarzenegger-worshipping weightlifters repeatedly use it to mock those who don't meet their standards of physical perfection.

Democrats said Schwarzenegger's remarks were insulting to women and gays and distracted from budget negotiations. State Sen. Sheila Kuehl said the governor had resorted to "blatant homophobia."

"It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult. That's very troubling that he would use such a homophobic way of trying to put down legislative leadership," said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislature's five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus.

Schwarzenegger's criticism of Democrats stems in part from their support of one bill prohibiting schools from contracting services with private companies, and another giving workers authority to sue their employers to enforce labor laws. Each side accuses the other of caving in to special interests.

At a rally Sunday in Stockton, the governor gave a speech almost identical to the one he delivered in Ontario but without the "girlie men" remark. Spokesman Rob Stutzman said the line was dropped because Schwarzenegger had already sent the message he wanted to send, not because he regretted his remarks.

"It's a forceful way of making the point to regular Californians that legislators are wimps when they let special interests push them around," Stutzman said. "If they complain too much about this, I guess they're making the governor's point."

Assemblyman Mark Leno, a San Francisco Democrat who is chairman of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Caucus, said he was glad Schwarzenegger didn't repeat the "girlie men" remark Sunday, saying it was "as misogynist as it is anti-gay."

"To disparage a group of law abiding tax paying citizens is just wrong," Leno said.

Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, a Democrat, said that while he wasn't upset by the remark, his 13-year-old daughter was.

"She's a young girl who knows the governor and really likes him a lot and didn't find the term to be a positive term, and finds it to be derogatory," Nunez said. "It was no question a very, very insensitive comment to make. I personally am not intimidated or threatened by it, but I think it really is beneath Gov. Schwarzenegger."


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1 posted on 07/19/2004 5:28:54 AM PDT by presidio9
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"It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult. That's very troubling that he would use such a homophobic way of trying to put down legislative leadership," said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislature's five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus.

Have these people never seen SNL?

2 posted on 07/19/2004 5:31:27 AM PDT by Sloth (We have to support RINOs like Specter; their states are too liberal to elect someone like Santorum.)
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Oh yeah. That'll get some traction. LOL. Anyone with even 1/4 of a brain can figure out Arnie is playing on his movie star persona/sat night live hans and frans image, having a little fun with it. To carp about it just proves his point, anyway.


3 posted on 07/19/2004 5:31:28 AM PDT by Huck (I love the USA!)
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He should have followed it up with a rendition of Cheney's remark to Senator Leahy, IMO.

The Liberals are down on the mat. It's no time to go back to our corner and give them time to recover.

Kick the h*ll out of them Arnold!

4 posted on 07/19/2004 5:34:01 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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Democrats protested that the remark was sexist and homophobic.

This charge is ALWAYS being made. I think the proper response to it is to ask -- Just how is it sexist and homophobic? I would like to hear an answer other than just the normal hysterical ranting and raving that is usually forthcoming.

5 posted on 07/19/2004 5:34:21 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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Democrats said Schwarzenegger's remarks were insulting to women and gays and distracted from budget negotiations.

buncah sissies can't take a joke...

6 posted on 07/19/2004 5:34:27 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I'm going on vacation in 11 days...)
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Lord knows I was not for Scharwzenegger (was for McClintock), but I'll be darned, the guy has redeemed himself somewhat in my book. Good for him.


7 posted on 07/19/2004 5:34:31 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: Huck

"We're here to PUMP YOU UP!"


8 posted on 07/19/2004 5:35:14 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man." -- John Dryden)
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"girlie-men", cowards, irresponsible, derelict, take your pick.


9 posted on 07/19/2004 5:35:44 AM PDT by G Larry (Support John Thune!)
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One thing is for sure: The democrat politicians are a bunch of political whores.


10 posted on 07/19/2004 5:35:46 AM PDT by punster
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Only Democrats would complain about the political incorrectness of Arnold's remark. They don't even go into what "girlie men" actually means. They have just been defined by a fabulous governor whose approval ratings are in the stratosphere.

Meanwhile, they call Bush "Hitler" and a Nazi constantly, yet are never asked to apologize.


11 posted on 07/19/2004 5:36:37 AM PDT by Galtoid
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Girly men fits the lib male and manly girl fits the lib female.

I guess they prefer shoes that aren't comfortable.


12 posted on 07/19/2004 5:37:53 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Sir Guy de la Conspiracie, kuh-nigget extraordinaire. RKBA & Insane Clown Posse since 7/04)
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Love it. One of my favorite descriptives. Now it can be a mainstream word, freely used.


13 posted on 07/19/2004 5:38:46 AM PDT by sarasota
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Doesnt this mean that Dana Carvey and Kevin Nealon are homophobes too?


14 posted on 07/19/2004 5:39:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (yes. As a matter of fact, my legs are broke.)
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The Dems are embarrassing themselves with their pettiness.

Kerry reminds me of a girlie man as well. I'm guessing that al Qaeda will roll right over him. A couple of roadside bombs, and Kerry will undo impending victory in Iraq by withdrawing US troops.

Having already helped lose the War in Vietnam, he will lose the war in Iraq, and then by appeasement lose the Korean War, as well. It may be a little more difficult for him to lose WWII, but I am sure he will try.


15 posted on 07/19/2004 5:40:11 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Ja, girlie-maenner.


16 posted on 07/19/2004 5:41:28 AM PDT by beef ("Blessed are the geeks, for they shall inherit the earth.")
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To: Sloth

It is not the Govenators fault that the rats are a bunch of gutless sissy boys.


17 posted on 07/19/2004 5:42:08 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Power corrupts..... Absolute power can be fun.)
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Way to go Arnold, What they really don't like is the call out that they are representing trial lawyers and unions more than the people.

We had camp staff who used the term "girly men" and it was not racist or homophobic, it was a fun tease and was always taken that way. These legislators, (particularly the women) should "Get Over It".


18 posted on 07/19/2004 5:42:15 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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Girlie men.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.


19 posted on 07/19/2004 5:43:25 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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Democrats protested that the remark was sexist and homophobic.

Probably racist too. Guess they'll have to burn him at the stake.

20 posted on 07/19/2004 5:48:55 AM PDT by madprof98
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