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Official denies nuclear arms found in Iraq
UPI ^ | July 21, 2004

Posted on 07/21/2004 11:04:20 AM PDT by HAL9000

Baghdad, Iraq, Jul. 21 (UPI) -- A U.S. military official Wednesday denied a report of Iraqi missiles carrying nuclear warheads being found in a concrete trench northwest of Baghdad.

The daily al-Sabah newspaper Wednesday had quoted sources as saying three missiles armed with nuclear warheads were discovered in a trench near the city of Tikrit, the hometown of ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

A U.S. military spokesman in Tikrit told United Press International that the report was untrue.

"Nothing's been found. The report is not factual," said Master Sgt. Robert Cowens, a spokesman for the 1st Infantry Division, based in Tikrit.

The newspaper reported the three missiles were discovered by chance when Iraqi security forces captured former Baath party official Khoder al-Douri who revealed during interrogation the location of the missiles saying they carried nuclear warheads.

Al-Sabah said that the missiles were discovered in a trench under six meters of concrete, designed to evade sophisticated sensors.

A spokesman with Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's office told UPI that the report concerning the alleged missiles and warheads emerged "while gathering information for Saddam Hussein's tribunal" during the interrogation of a captured former official of Saddam's regime.

Copyright 2004 United Press International



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alsabah; denial; iraq; nuclear; nuclearwarheads; tikrit; usarmy; wmd
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1 posted on 07/21/2004 11:04:21 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

I knew it was too good to be true.


2 posted on 07/21/2004 11:06:55 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: CzarNicky

yep glad this one did not get traction..


3 posted on 07/21/2004 11:14:53 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: CzarNicky

OK, shows over.

Nothing to see here.

Move along, move along.






(Phew! That was close! Info actually ogt out!)


4 posted on 07/21/2004 11:16:39 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (I think James Brown said it best, "Shabbbbab-brezeee, nahn, uuhhh, Can't hep myseff.")
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To: CzarNicky

OK, shows over.

Nothing to see here.

Move along, move along.






(Phew! That was close! Info actually got out!)


5 posted on 07/21/2004 11:17:32 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (I think James Brown said it best, "Shabbbbab-brezeee, nahn, uuhhh, Can't hep myseff.")
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To: HAL9000

Just wondering - how does a story like this [the original report alleging three nukes]come about? Deliberate fabrication? Misidentification of conventional warheads? Garbled communications? Did "Go down to the cafe and order me some falafel and mint tea" become garbled as "There are three nukes in a bunker near Tikrit." How does this happen?


6 posted on 07/21/2004 11:26:09 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

Ask Jayson Blair.


7 posted on 07/21/2004 11:31:23 AM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Many times the original story *IS* the truth - the denials are for civilian "terror control"

Befire this started, I told many people that even though we know exactly what is over there, the USA will never admit what it finds. If ours - due to embarassment, if others - we can use the info for blackmail or other leverage.

Either way, if the general population knew of all the really nasty stuff that the wold has, we would probably have riots and anarchy due to their ignorance.


8 posted on 07/21/2004 11:36:23 AM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: steplock
Many times the original story *IS* the truth - the denials are for civilian "terror control"

No it isn't. Basically 100% of the time the original story is nonsense.

9 posted on 07/21/2004 11:40:29 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: HAL9000
""Nothing's been found. The report is not factual," said Master Sgt. Robert Cowens, a spokesman for the 1st Infantry Division, based in Tikrit."

<..snip..>

"A spokesman with Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's office told UPI that the report concerning the alleged missiles and warheads emerged "while gathering information for Saddam Hussein's tribunal" during the interrogation of a captured former official of Saddam's regime."

Can we assume that the report emerged from Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's office to begin with? It isn't all that clear here.

Regardless, I think the denial should have been made by someone higher up in the chain of command. This is not small potatoes.

10 posted on 07/21/2004 11:43:12 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Strategerist
No it isn't. Basically 100% of the time the original story is nonsense.

Stop making sense! You will be targeted as a troll!
11 posted on 07/21/2004 11:47:41 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: HAL9000

""Nothing's been found. The report is not factual," said Master Sgt. Robert Cowens, a spokesman for the 1st Infantry Division, based in Tikrit."

With all due respect for Master Sgt. Cowens,

1. Is he the official spokesman? or, just the first American the reporter could find?
2. What question was he answering?

In less than 8 hours, the report has been totally discredited by the media.
I'm not gullible, but I don't believe anything from the media until they come up with documents or comments from a higher authority.


12 posted on 07/21/2004 11:52:49 AM PDT by Big Otto (France, where Penis Envy is a national disease....)
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To: Big Otto
I'm not gullible

Really? You swallowed a story from an Arab newspaper that's only weeks old and based solely on "anonymous political sources" hook, line, and sinker.

If nobody in Iraq from the Coalition had denied the story till tomorrow, people would have found that unusual and suspicious.

If the commanding General of the Coalition had denied the story himself in a press conference, people would have found THAT unusual and suspicious.

13 posted on 07/21/2004 11:59:29 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: steplock
"Befire this started, I told many people that even though we know exactly what is over there, the USA will never admit what it finds."

I can't agree with that at all. Not finding WMD's has been a major embarrassment and a major blow to our prestige. There is no way we would fail to disclose finding the WMD's. (Oh, I suppose for security reasons SOME findings might be withheld until a later date, but the governmnet would never allow the "no WMD's/Bush lied" mantra to go unrebutted for this long if we had found them.)
14 posted on 07/21/2004 12:01:57 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: HAL9000
Makes sense. If what we knew of Saddam's programs was even halfway accurate he was a long way from the warhead-building stage. And that wasn't just CIA, it was everybody who had looked at it including the IAEC.

That doesn't mean he couldn't have gotten them from somewhere else, but it isn't the sort of item you find laying around on the road. Normally. Maybe I better go check my ammo trunk to see if anything's missing...

15 posted on 07/21/2004 12:07:05 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: HAL9000
Al-Sabah said that the missiles were discovered in a trench under six meters of concrete, designed to evade sophisticated sensors.

Somebody went to a lot of trouble and effort just to hide three missiles.

16 posted on 07/21/2004 12:18:18 PM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: oyez

Concrete is cheap - especially in Iraq.


17 posted on 07/21/2004 12:22:40 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: Steve_Seattle
Deliberate fabrication?

"AF is low on Water."

18 posted on 07/21/2004 12:34:58 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"Did 'Go down to the cafe and order me some falafel and mint tea' become garbled as "There are three nukes in a bunker near Tikrit." How does this happen?

No, the question is "What is Joe Wilson doing in Iraq?"

19 posted on 07/21/2004 1:41:15 PM PDT by Freemyland
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To: Strategerist

"You swallowed a story from an Arab newspaper that's only weeks old "

Check your facts, the report was made 7/21/2004 and it was only posted in english this morning.

"hook, line, and sinker"

Not true, but if it were, improbably, to turn out to be factual, it would be a very important news story. So not only do I take the original story with a grain of salt, but also the too-quick rebuttals.

BTW, Al-Sabah has scooped western news sources several times, AND they just happen to be a bit closer to the action than either you or I.


20 posted on 07/21/2004 2:19:01 PM PDT by Big Otto (France, where Penis Envy is a national disease....)
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