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Why US is wary of Muslims
Malaysia Kini ^ | July 21, 2004 | Eric Mudasi

Posted on 07/21/2004 6:26:15 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John

I refer to the letter US treating Muslims shoddily.

First of all, the Sept 11 hijackers were not Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, or anyone else for that matter. They were Muslims. Three thousand Americans of all faiths were slaughtered. So can you blame the Americans for treating Muslims they way they do?

The Americans know that textbooks in some Islamic countries demonise the West. For example, in Saudi Arabia, Saudi schoolchildren are being taught to disparage Christianity and Judaism in a textbook issued by their education ministry.

There is no other country on earth where freedom of religion is not just a slogan, but is actually practised. But America has good reasons to be wary of Muslims. Let us see why.

Ramzi Yousef - He arrived from Pakistan with an Iraqi passport but without a US visa. Claiming political asylum, he was briefly detained for illegal entry, then allowed to enter the US because the immigration authorities lacked space to hold him.

Yousef went on to plot the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, for which he now sits convicted in a US jail.

Mir Aimal Kansi - A Pakistani who received a business visa in 1991 to enter the United States, despite his known history as an Islamist. After arrival, he claimed political asylum based on his ethnic minority status in Pakistan.

He obtained a driver's licence and an AK-47, then went on a murderous rampage outside the CIA headquarters in January 1993, killing two employees and wounding three others. He was convicted in 1997 of capital murder and nine other charges, for which he was executed on Nov 14, 2002 by lethal injection.

Gazi Ibrahim Abu Mezer - A Palestinian who entered the US illegally from Canada in about 1996, claiming political asylum based on alleged persecution by Israel. Released on a US$5,000 bond (posted by a another illegal alien), he skipped his asylum hearing.

In June 1997, a federal immigration judge ordered Mezer to leave the country on a ‘voluntary departure order’, which Mezer ignored. He was arrested in July 1997 as he was about to bomb the New York City subways, for which he now sits convicted in a US jail.

Nuradin M Abdi - A Somali, whom prosecutors allege received a bogus ‘refugee’ status in 1999, then fraudulently obtained a refugee travel document which he used to fly to Ethiopia for al-Qaeda's jihad training. On returning he began plotting to blow up a shopping mall in Ohio, for which he now sits accused in a US jail.

Omar Abdel Rahman - The blind Egyptian sheikh who, although already on a terrorism ‘watch list’ when he arrived in the US, nevertheless acquired a tourist visa and then permanent residency.

When it was understood who he was, this was revoked and Abdel Rahman applied for political asylum. He was allowed to remain while his application was being considered, in which time he guided his disciples who blew up the World Trade Center in 1993 and then plotted to blow up New York City landmarks in 1995; he now sits convicted in a US jail for the latter offence.

Hesham Mohamed Ali Hedayet - An Egyptian who entered the United States as a tourist in 1992, then applied for political asylum, claiming discrimination on account of his religious beliefs - shorthand for being an Islamist, indeed a member of the al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (‘the Islamic Group), a group engaged in terrorism since 1981 and listed in the US State Department's 1992 edition of ‘Patterns of Global Terrorism’.

The immigration authorities ruled against his asylum application in March 1995 and formally began deportation procedures but Hedayet disappeared. In July 2002, Hedayet engaged in a shooting spree at the El Al (Israeli Airlines) counter at the Los Angeles International Airport, killing two before being shot dead himself.

The Council of American Islamic Relations (Cair) claims to be a group of concerned Americans dedicated to eliminating the Islamist terrorist threat to the US. But there were some members within who supported terror and were arrested.

Rafeeq Jaber, president, Islamic Association for Palestine, a Hamas offshoot.

Mahmoud A Nimer, member, board of directors, Islamic Academy of Florida, Tampa (an Islamic school used as a base of support for the Palestinian Islamic Jihad)

Ayman Osman member, board of directors, Islamic Academy of Florida, Tampa; employer of Hatem Fariz, arrested on terrorism charges and charged with being a member of Palestinian Islamic Jihad

Abdurahman Alamoudi, ‘a well-heeled advocate’ who had represented American Muslims in White House meetings and was later arrested on terrorism-related charges. But on the whole, the Muslims are better treated in the US than the non-Muslims in Malaysia where they suffer from ‘religious apartheid’. The Muslims in the US have a better deal, than anywhere else on the planet. That is a fact.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1991; 1993; 199301; 200211; 911; aymanosman; cair; cia; hatemfariz; islam; islamicjihad; kansi; massshooting; massshootings; miraimalkansi; muslims; nuradinmabdi; omarabdelrahman; omarrahman; rafeeqjaber; ramziyousef; religionofpeace; rop; terrortimeline
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Well put together letter. Thought it'd be a fine post here.
1 posted on 07/21/2004 6:26:20 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Why US is wary of Muslims

Because a lot of them want to kill us?

FMCDH(BITS)

2 posted on 07/21/2004 6:31:07 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

It wasn't 19 Buddhists, Jehovah's Witnesses, or Rastafarians who murdered 3000 people on 9-11-01.
It wasn't a renegade sect of Presbyterians who butchered our contractors in Fallujah.
They didn't find Paul Johnson's head in a Hindu's refrigerator today.
Lutheran suicide bombers are not a major threat.


3 posted on 07/21/2004 6:40:17 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (A few words for the media: Julius Streicher, follow his path, share his fate.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

You thought right! Thanks for finding it and posting it!


4 posted on 07/21/2004 6:48:11 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John


wary is not the word I feel for Muslims...


5 posted on 07/21/2004 6:50:15 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

You were right. Excellent letter. I am not sure why so many foreign commentators are certain that there's a Muslim hanging from every lamp-post in New York City, unless it's because where they're from, there would be.


6 posted on 07/21/2004 6:52:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: nothingnew
Because a lot of them are traitors that want to kill us?
7 posted on 07/21/2004 6:59:51 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

The reason Americans are wary of Muslims is the same that we were weary of our previous enemies. It's because their bahavior warrents our being weary of them.

Political correctness is so deviod of logic, it borders on lunacy.


8 posted on 07/21/2004 7:01:34 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

And here all this time I thought they were Eskimos. No, make that PC. Athabascans. /sarc.


9 posted on 07/21/2004 7:01:36 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

The US is not just wary of muslims. All one need do is participate in some major event or travel by air to realize that the US is wary of everyone...which includes toddlers, teens, adults, moms, dads, grandmas, grandads, the black, the white, the red, the brown, the yellow, the pink and the purple.

Oh yea, the US is wary of everyone. If not, then please explain why my 82 year old mother in law (born and raised in Texas, wife of WWII pilot) was pulled aside (in her wheelchair) for further searching before she could board the plane?

Then, please explain why me, a middle aged white male had to have his camera bag poked thru by some illiterate retard before I could enter my alma mater's bowl game last year?

Make no bones about it. The US is wary of everyone. So much so that everyone everywhere is suspect and subject to search. The paranoi is rampant and cuts deep into the heart and soul of America. It's a sad state of affairs...meanwhile, the real and actual muslim terrorists are laughing their waxxes off at our politically correct paranoi. Meantime, while the retards are strip searching grandma in her wheelchair, the actual terrorist gets a pass.


10 posted on 07/21/2004 7:11:28 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Isn't it odd that the only terrorist executed was Timothy McVey, also the only non-Muslim (although there is suspicion of Muslim involvement). All the Muslims (excluding the ones that went out in a blaze of idiotic jihadic "glory" while killing thousands of innocent men women and children) are sitting alive and well in jail, probably waiting for some Democrat president to pardon them.

Interesting.


11 posted on 07/21/2004 7:18:09 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (Al Queda, Al Jazeera, Al Gore, Al Franken: the four horsemen of the Apocalypse)
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1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:

Sitting Bull
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Olga Corbitt
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
Lost Norwegians
Elvis
A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
John Dillinger
the King of Sweden
Five Boy Scouts
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
A pizza delivery guy
Pee Wee Herman
Geraldo Rivera
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American Passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
the Smurfs
Donny Osmond
Ariel, the Little Mermaid
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
Captain Kidd
Amelia Earhart
Mother Teresa
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
Scooby Doo (and Shaggy, too)
Tweedledee (and Tweedledum)
Butch Cassidy (and the Sundance Kid)
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
Richard Simmons
Michael Jordan
Mrs. Butterworth
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
Fred Rogers
Hillary Clinton
The Rock
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite, and Jim Jones
The Sopranos
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by:
Jacques Chirac
Gerhard Schroeder
John Howard
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2004, contractor Nick Berg was kidnapped and beheaded by:
The Easter Bunny
Alan Greenspan
Jennifer Aniston
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

www.theperfectamerican.com


12 posted on 07/21/2004 7:21:33 PM PDT by jcb8199
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Concise. Useful reference.


13 posted on 07/21/2004 9:10:04 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

I'm just curious as to how we Americans treat Muslims shoddily?...And the point he makes about some schools and books teaching hatred of Christians and Jews he should have included the mosques and schools in LA county here in the US and probab;y every mosque where a wahabi cleric resides


14 posted on 07/21/2004 9:37:09 PM PDT by jnarcus
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I have blog at http://malaysiatoday.blogspot.com The letter was heavily censored/editted before being published. I am in a Muslim majority country, I am a minority. This is the original letter, without being editted.
I refer to the letter by US treating Muslims shoddily Arbibi Ashoy
http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/28369 Most of the time he writes
about Islam, with very constricted views on how people perceive the
actions of Muslims. First of all of the Sep 11 hijackers were not
Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, or anyone for that matter but Muslims.
3,000 Americans of all faiths were slaughtered.So can you blame the
Americans. The Americans know that textbooks in Islamic countries
countries demonises the West, for example in Saudi Arabia where Saudi
schoolchildren are being taught to disparage Christianity and Judaism
in a textbook issued by the education
ministry.http://www.guardian.co.uk/saudi/story/0,11599,1260867,00.html

The difference between the Muslims and Non-Muslims is their beliefs,
Muslims preach intolerance, discrimination and the superiority of
their creed. The concept of "diversity" based on religious belief is a
prerogative of Islamic societies. They don't see human beings as
individuals with a cultural, historical and social background, but
only as Muslims or as Kuffar (Kafirs). Muslims should understand, once
and for all, that for Westerners, the word "Christian" is not an
identity but a belief system. Muslims see themselves as distinct from
the rest of mankind and adhere to a strict religious apartheid. The
separation of the Ummah (the Muslims) and the Kuffar is an essential
part of their belief.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/StefaniaA40713.htm Here is one of the
many verses that cause the Americans to treat Muslims shoddily 005.051
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for
your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to
each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is
of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. What the Koran
actually teaches
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/quran_teaches.htm

They do contribute to their own dilemma, CAIR their mainstream
advocate of civil rights for Islam, is a supporter of terrorists
organization.CAIR: 'Moderate' friends of terror
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/394 There is no other country on
earth where freedom of religion is not just a slogan, it actually
happens in the US. Okay, how about freedom of religion in Saudi
Arabia, Syria, Pakistan, Malaysia and all Muslim countries on earth,
get my drift ? What the Muslims do in the US, is not what the Chinese
and Indians do in Malaysia ? They want to be a separate entity, not
Americans but being the Ummah is the priority. In what other faith
when you are citizen of a country, you are discouraged to fight
against your own faith, when in actual fact you are defending you very
own country against memebrs of your own faith, who are attacking your
country.Look at some of the contributions of Muslims Ramzi Yousef: He
arrived from Pakistan with an Iraqi passport but no U.S. visa.
Claiming political asylum, he was briefly detained for illegal entry,
then allowed to enter the United States because the immigration
authorities lacked space to hold him. Yousef went on to plot the 1993
World Trade Center bombing, for which he now sits convicted in a U.S.
jail.
Mir Aimal Kansi: A Pakistani who received a business visa in 1991 to
enter the United States, despite his known history as an Islamist.
After arrival, he claimed political asylum based on his ethnic
minority status in Pakistan. He obtained a driver's license and an
AK-47, then went on a murderous rampage outside the CIA headquarters
in January 1993, killing two employees and wounded three others. He
was convicted in 1997 of capital murder and nine other charges, for
which he was executed on November 14, 2002 by lethal injection.
Gazi Ibrahim Abu Mezer: A Palestinian who entered the United States
illegally from Canada in about 1996, claiming political asylum based
on alleged persecution by Israel. Released on a $5,000 bond (posted by
a another illegal alien), he skipped his asylum hearing. In June 1997,
a federal immigration judge ordered Mezer to leave the country on a
"voluntary departure order," which Mezer ignored. He was arrested in
July 1997 as he was about to bomb the New York City subways, for which
he now sits convicted in a U.S. jail.
Nuradin M. Abdi: A Somali, whom prosecutors allege received a bogus
"refugee" status in 1999, then fraudulently obtained a refugee travel
document which he used to fly to Ethiopia for Al-Qaeda's jihad
training. On returning he began plotting to blow up a shopping mall in
Ohio, for which he now sits accused in a U.S. jail. Omar Abdel Rahman:
The blind Egyptian sheikh who, although already on a terrorism "watch
list" when he arrived in the United States, nevertheless acquired a
tourist visa and then permanent residency. When it was understood who
he was, this was revoked and Abdel Rahman applied for political
asylum. He was allowed to remain while his application was being
considered, which time he used to guide his disciples who blew up the
World Trade Center in 1993 and then plotted to blow up New York City
landmarks in 1995; he now sits convicted in a U.S. jail for the latter
offense.
Hesham Mohamed Ali Hedayet: An Egyptian who entered the United States
as a tourist in 1992, he then applied for political asylum, claiming
discrimination on account of his religious beliefs – shorthand for
being an Islamist, indeed a member of al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya ("the
Islamic Group"), a group engaged in terrorism since 1981 and listed in
the State Department's 1992 edition of Patterns of Global Terrorism.
The immigration authorities ruled against his asylum application in
March 1995 and formally began the deportation procedures but Hedayet
disappeared. In July 2002, Hedayet engaged in a shooting spree against
the El Al counter at Los Angeles International Airport, killing two
before being shot dead himself.

Here are some of the pioneers of CAIR who supported terror and were
arrested, Rafeeq Jaber – president, Islamic Association for Palestine,
a Hamas offshoot.Mahmoud A Nimer - member, board of directors, Islamic
Academy of Florida, Tampa (an Islamic school established by Sami
al-Arian; al-Arian's indictment indicates the school was used as a
base of support for the Palestinian Islamic Jihad).Ayman Osman -
member, board of directors, Islamic Academy of Florida, Tampa;
employer of Hatem Fariz, arrested on terrorism charges and charged
with being a member of Palestinian Islamic Jihad.Abdurahman Alamoudi,
"a well-heeled advocate who had represented American Muslims in White
House meetings,was arrested on terrorism-related
charges.http://www.danielpipes.org/article/1841

The Muslims are better traeted in the US than the Non-Muslims in
Malaysia, where they suffer from "Religious Apartheid", remember you
once said "Chaos if Muslims allowed religious freedom"
http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/28097 Well, Muslims in Malaysia
are converting to other religions whether you like it or not. Remember
this with regards to the case of the non-muslim children with a muslim
father and non-Muslim mother in court. Arbibi, you argued that it is
best for the kids to be Muslims in this country because only then will
they be given the maximum possible opportunity to progress. You, deep
in your heart , practise religious apartheid, a racist, dying to get
out.

The Muslims in the US have a better deal, than anywhere else on the
planet. That, my fellow is fact.

Eric Mudasi


15 posted on 07/27/2004 6:10:58 PM PDT by Eric Mudasi
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

I ain't wary. I'm weary.

THEY better be wary.


16 posted on 07/27/2004 6:48:12 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Eric Mudasi

Why in the world did you bother to post this stuff to me...I don't really care about your blog. I consider Islam to be EVIL and I also consider most people in the world to be too afraid to call it out for what it is....I didn't really want to read your lengthy post that adds nothing and clarifies even less...If you don't like being in a Muslim country then I suggest you leave...My inital post was sarcastic and I thought self evident next time I wil be sure to include the disclaimer.


17 posted on 07/27/2004 11:39:42 PM PDT by jnarcus
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You joined today to post more of your personal blog? wow that's really sad


18 posted on 07/27/2004 11:40:44 PM PDT by jnarcus
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To: jnarcus
If I were a møøselimb I'd lie awake at night wondering how I'm going to answer the questions:

"What did you know and when did you know it?" and "Why didn't you TELL us?!?!" after he next attack.

I'd know that my life and the lives of my loved ones, and indeed the life of every møøselimb within reach of any American depends on having a VERY good answer to that question...
19 posted on 07/27/2004 11:47:30 PM PDT by null and void (Freedom is written with blood on the streets, not with ink in congress.)
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To: jnarcus

You are correct about them being evil and the world afraid to offend them.One can win this was by being P.C.Let me be in charge.I would treaten mecca and the other two cities with nukes and would use them.They only understand Power and we need to show them what fear is.But I'am a nice what do I know.


20 posted on 09/21/2004 6:21:26 PM PDT by redtarayogi (redtarayogi)
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