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About Those Fearsome Black Holes? Never Mind
NY Times ^ | July 22, 2004 | DENNIS OVERBYE

Posted on 07/22/2004 9:17:06 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 07/22/2004 9:17:11 PM PDT by neverdem
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PING


2 posted on 07/22/2004 9:22:00 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Is that the times original headline? If so it's completely ridiculous.

Although if a ny times reporter or its editorial staff were willing to take a trip to a harmless black hole, I'd chip in a few bucks for the ride.


3 posted on 07/22/2004 9:25:11 PM PDT by flashbunny (Help prevent stupidity. Please remember to spay and neuter your celebrities. Thank you.)
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To: neverdem

hrmn...
always wondered what happens when a singularity gets "full"


4 posted on 07/22/2004 9:26:27 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: neverdem

Hawking was wrong, yeah. So are those who swallow that silly 'big bang' theory.

How big of us to think we know what's what.


5 posted on 07/22/2004 9:28:11 PM PDT by pantseatflyer
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To: neverdem

Odd that this coincides with the apparent retrieval of information from Sandy Berger's pants. A new universal constant?


6 posted on 07/22/2004 9:31:10 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (A few words for the media: Julius Streicher, follow his path, share his fate.)
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To: King Prout

So I guess the Black Hole kinda hurls eventually. A case of Cosmic gluttony I suppose. :)


7 posted on 07/22/2004 9:35:02 PM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

LOL


8 posted on 07/22/2004 9:36:34 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
"If you jump into a black hole, your mass energy will be returned to our universe, but in a mangled form, which contains the information about what you were like, but in an unrecognizable state."

Hawking lends theortical support to the theory I've been working on about Michael Moore. It's been obvious for some time that Michael Moore is an over-sized mass that consumes everything around him. But the problem was explaining how such a thing could radiate bogus information.

I'm glad Hawking did this, because I'm not very good at math.


9 posted on 07/22/2004 9:40:51 PM PDT by Nick Danger (Neutrinos have mass? I didn't even know they were Catholic.)
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To: King Prout

If it is full of enough Bud, would it soon be a "naked singularity"?


10 posted on 07/22/2004 9:52:37 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: Search4Truth

It has just been something I have long wondered at - I mean, if the conditions inside the event horizon are as horrific as math tells us they must be, wouldn't gravity itself sooner or later break down, causing the singularity to blowed up reeeeeal good?


11 posted on 07/22/2004 9:53:23 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: GladesGuru

gad, what an image.


12 posted on 07/22/2004 9:53:52 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: King Prout

I suppose this puts a dampener on the theory that the matter goes into another dimension, as some have theorized.

Whenever theorists or physicists speak in terms of infinites, you know they don't have a clue.


13 posted on 07/22/2004 10:05:12 PM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: neverdem
For a moment there I was thinking about the 'black hole' was reffering to the (near) empty space between the ears of most Democrat politicians (Schumer, Gore, Dashole, Clintons, Fine-Swine, Kerry, Edwards etc, etc, etc.

Also the BLack Hole could be that empty space where a normal human heart would be; but in their case its become VERY darkened by evil.

14 posted on 07/22/2004 10:09:43 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: King Prout

The relationship of gravity inside the event horizon would in essence break down in a Newtonian or relativistic system, as once past it your velocity should be above c. Once above c, relativity no longer works - so then what? Are you no longer able to be observed by someone in our reference plane? Of course you can't. So then it falls to the rules of quantum, and at this point it's anybody's guess.


15 posted on 07/22/2004 10:16:58 PM PDT by datura (The Difference Between a Democrat and a Communist Is????)
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To: pantseatflyer
"How big of us to think we know what's what."

What we know now, is only a drop in the largest ocean on earth.

16 posted on 07/22/2004 10:32:13 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: neverdem; snopercod
Black holes are created by any item that exceeds the speed of light relative to when and where you are at, your time zone, if you will.

When you look out into space, and you see a black hole, you are looking up the exit pipe, so to speak, of an item that is departing from your frame of reference, at a speed exceeding that of light.

In a similar vein, what is called a collapsing star, is a star born anew in another time zone. While we watch it collapse, some guy in the other time zone is watching it appear and can't wait to name it for himself.

Intergalactic intellectual property trial lawyers are foaming at the bit and can't wait to profit from these disputes.

17 posted on 07/22/2004 10:45:01 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute

Black holes are what happens when a star eats itself.

White holes are what happens when another universe farts.

Wormholes are black holes that can't make up their minds.


18 posted on 07/22/2004 10:50:07 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Never misunderestimate our Commander-In-Chief.)
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To: neverdem; snopercod
information about what happens inside some volume of space is somehow encoded on the surface of its boundary

Well now that's interesting, because all of what you see, what appears to be the volume of your space, is also the surface.

Everything that we see, is the surface of the volume of our space, what we call our universe.

There may or may not be a beach ball perimeter to it, but that is not the surface; it is only part of the surface.

A black hole is a hole in the surface.

19 posted on 07/22/2004 10:57:12 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

So white holes are black holes suffering from Irritated Gravity Syndrome as a result of ingesting worms?


20 posted on 07/22/2004 10:59:33 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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