Theory of a founding father's (Alexander Hamilton)African ancestry

The Record ^ | July 23, 2004 | LAWRENCE AARON

[cyborg]

It's totally political.

[SunkenCiv]

File this one next to "Lincoln was Gay." No, really, check the web. :'D

[reg45]

He'd have african ancestry in the same way that I do.

Let's see, if you go back about two million years ,,, (African Ancestry).

[OldPossum]

Man, we must be reading different editions of the same book. Nowhere did I see any suggestion that Rachel was Jewish though it was clearly implied that her first husband (though not Alexander's father) was likely Jewish based on his surname. I might be wrong and just plain missed something. If so, please point out the page(s) for me.

Thanks.

OP

[OldPossum]

I just now saw your post #73. What page did that appear on?

[OldPossum]

Never mind my post 85. Here's what I found on pages 8-9 of Ron Chernow's "Alexander Hamilton":

"The archives of St. George's Parish... record the marriage of John Faucette to a British woman, Mary Uppington on August 17, 1718...In all the Faucettes produced seven children; Hamilton's mother, Rachel, being the second youngest, born circa 1729."

I am presuming that Mr. Chernow did his homework. If so, it would seem to me that he would have said that Rachel's full name would have included "Levine" but that does not appear to be the case. I think the magazine article is picking up on the fact that Rachel had at one time been married to a person by the name of Lavien, who in all probability was Jewish, but that does not make her Jewish by blood.

Furthermore, Mr. Chernow refers to statements that Hamilton himself was partly black as "pure mythology" (page 9).

[bigeasy_70118]

Thank you for posting this.

I am reading the book now and while Chernow discusses the possibility that Hamilton may have had some African blood in him, he dismisses it and says in fact Hamilton was not black.

Can the liberal news media get anything right?

[cyborg]

Can the liberal news media get anything right?

*** No. Even if Hamilton has african blood, so what? Does that now make him a homeboy like 50 cent? No.

[cyborg]

Perhaps someone should forward that info to this reporter.

[ccmay]

Hamilton had red hair

I met a Jamaican once, his skin was very dark but his hair was reddish-brown and his eyes were green. Obviously of Scottish or Irish ancestry, in addition to African. I don;t think red hair proves much one way or the other.

-ccm

[SimplePlan4EVER]

really? maybe he was just early for the time. maybe he was intelligent enough to realize that blacks and whites have the same potential if treated exactly the same. i don’t think hamilton was black...just cuz he was a strong abolitionist doesn’t have to mean he’s black! gosh you’re making all these stories, you the writer whoever you are.

[SimplePlan4EVER]

youre descened from hamilton?!?!?! omg! you must know a lot about him then...
hey can you help me with my project?
(jkjk)

[SunkenCiv]

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[RegulatorCountry]

The subtle stupidity of this, is the assumption that Hamilton must have been secretly black, in order to have had sympathy for the plight of slaves in the new nation.

The fundamental incompatibility of institutions of bondage with God-given, natural rights under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, was recognized from the beginning. State Constitutions recognized this incompatibility. It was recognized as the potential undoing of the new nation in writing by several Founders, including slaveholder and Virginian George Mason.

There was no satisfactory means of extricating the largely agrarian economies of southern States from the institution, however. So, it continued, despite this recognition from the earliest days of the Republic. Mason's predicted war occurred, and nearly tore the country apart.

The Constitution was trampled underfoot in the aftermath of that war, and so it's debatable whether Mason's Nation survived the conflict.

[RegulatorCountry]

I grew up in the western reaches of the so-called “Plantation Belt” in NC, near many of the huge Hairston places along the Dan River, but also many others, including the Dalton, Golden, Goolsbee and Davis plantations. I have a third great uncle named after Peter Hairston; they were next door neighbors.

You’d be surprised at the human variety possible, in a biracial and even triracial population. There were “black” people with blonde hair and blue eyes, lighter than me. Redheads with freckles, albinos ... you could generally ascertain the surname from physical appearance.

The oldest triracial populations settled into the VA/NC border regions, and their communities were quiet old. They intermarried, and their physical appearance to this day is difficult to distinguish from Middle Eastern, with native, black and white ancestry, way back, eighteenth and seventeenth centuries.

[Pharmboy]

A few points on your post. First, it was not unusual at that time for educated men to know Hebrew, and second, many of the Caribbean islands had significant Jewish populations during colonial times since there was a lot of business going on and entrepreneurial Jews were drawn there.

As a side note, it is interesting that at the time of the RevWar the 4th largest concentration of Jews in the colonies were in Lancaster, PA (Philadelphia, NYC and Charleston, SC were 1, 2 and 3). Why Lancaster? Because it was the last stop for folks heading out to the wilds of western PA and that's where they provisioned up. Many of those merchants were Jewish.

[Beowulf9]

Johnny and Edgar Winters are black too. Global warming.

[SunkenCiv]

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