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Shooter of Bystander Won't Be Charged (Florida)
Lakeland Ledger ^ | July 23, 2004 | John Chambliss

Posted on 07/23/2004 7:07:35 PM PDT by Mulder

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1 posted on 07/23/2004 7:07:37 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: *bang_list

It's good to see a jury with some commonsense.


2 posted on 07/23/2004 7:08:04 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: Mulder

17 shots? Where the heck did this guy think all of those bullets were going? If one of them, say hit my kid I'd be pretty damn pissed!

No doubt about it he was justified in going after this mutt who tried to murder him in cold blood, but hells bells man, get CLOSER before you start pumping!


3 posted on 07/23/2004 7:15:25 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Mulder
Spraying seventeen shots in the general direction of a perp does not seem like a particularly good idea.

Maybe next time he will try aiming.

4 posted on 07/23/2004 7:17:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Mulder
In the absence of mens rea, there is no basis on which to charge Mr. Beck of, or convict him for, any crime. However, Mrs. Denmark is fully entitled to civil compensation by Mr. Beck for her injuries, pain and suffering. This is because Mr. Beck's need to defend himself, although it prevents his actions from being criminal, does not give him the right to injure any innocent person. One person's need never justifies violation of the rights of someone else.
5 posted on 07/23/2004 7:19:14 PM PDT by sourcery (This is your country. This is your country under socialism. Any questions? Just say no to Socialism!)
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To: TalBlack

Perhaps being shot in the head by the perp had a teensy impact on how long he thought he should wait before returning fire.


6 posted on 07/23/2004 7:19:19 PM PDT by flashbunny (Help prevent stupidity. Please remember to spay and neuter your celebrities. Thank you.)
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To: Mulder

Alearria Denmark - stupid dimocrat TWIT!


7 posted on 07/23/2004 7:19:49 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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Pretty harsh comment directed towards an innocent victim there, steplock. It's not as if she were a shooter.

Maybe getting shot twice has had an effect on her opinion of a guy cracking off 17 shots at an intersection.

8 posted on 07/23/2004 7:26:24 PM PDT by zoyd (Hi, I'm with the government. We're going to make you like your neighbor.)
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To: flashbunny

And perhaps being held responsible for his actions will have a teensy effect on his temper.


9 posted on 07/23/2004 7:26:32 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You mean like the TRAINED NYC cops who fired 47 shots from 20 feet away at an innocent man who pulled out his wallet to show ID. Oh yeah, I think they hit him a total of 3 times, but did kill him.

I seem to recall they all walked too.


10 posted on 07/23/2004 7:29:45 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Mulder

The guy had already been shot in the head, I find it hard to judge his decision-making very harshly.


11 posted on 07/23/2004 7:32:47 PM PDT by Sloth (We have to support RINOs like Specter; their states are too liberal to elect someone like Santorum.)
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17 shots? Where the heck did this guy think all of those bullets were going?

He just got shot in the head. He probably thought he was a goner, and the last thing he was going to do was take out the thug that shot him in the head. Good for him.

If one of them, say hit my kid I'd be pretty damn pissed!

He didn't hit any kids. He hit a woman who was about to get carjacked and probably raped and murdered by a fleeing felon. Tragic? Yes. But he probably saved her life.

No doubt about it he was justified in going after this mutt who tried to murder him in cold blood, but hells bells man, get CLOSER before you start pumping!

He should have kept a rifle on hand also, for just this purpose.

12 posted on 07/23/2004 7:35:38 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Maybe next time he will try aiming.

3 hits of out 17 is better than many cops do in a 'real fight'.

13 posted on 07/23/2004 7:37:28 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: sourcery
However, Mrs. Denmark is fully entitled to civil compensation by Mr. Beck for her injuries, pain and suffering.

Mr. Beck was acting in defense of his life. In the process he probably saved the life of Mrs. Denmark, not to mention saving her some trauma to areas below her belt.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone that attempts to bring criminal or civil charges against someone else that was acting in self-defense is a real POS.

Even moreso, when they probably save your life.

14 posted on 07/23/2004 7:39:55 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: Sloth
I find it hard to judge his decision-making very harshly.

I'm glad he chased the perp down and shot him.

If more Americans did the same, our streets would be much safer.

15 posted on 07/23/2004 7:40:50 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: Mulder

perhaps the store owner thought the van was a getaway vehicle and that the robber was trying to get in...

that's my story...

or would have been, but i do believe denmark is entitle to compensation from beck... but she should also thank him for saving her from logan...

teeman


16 posted on 07/23/2004 7:48:07 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: Mulder

3 hits of out 17 is better than many cops do in a 'real fight'.

If those TV tapes of cops getting into shoot outs are any indication most cops are too busy going all girly to shoot straight. They act like they have never considered that the shite might hit the fan one day. (I actually believe this is true).

I love watching the one where the State Trooper jinks away from a mutts murderous shot, pops up, one hands (no time for two) his semi-auto and fires like he is laser locked on the guy. THAT'S the way to respond!


17 posted on 07/23/2004 7:50:36 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That is why God created the shotgun...


18 posted on 07/23/2004 7:52:00 PM PDT by Bernard (Let Freedom Reign)
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To: Mulder
he probably saved the life of Mrs. Denmark, not to mention saving her some trauma to areas below her belt.

There is no evidence in the record to justify any such assertion. Based on a preponderance of the evidence, the jury finds for Mrs. Denmark.

19 posted on 07/23/2004 8:23:18 PM PDT by sourcery (This is your country. This is your country under socialism. Any questions? Just say no to Socialism!)
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To: sourcery
There is no evidence in the record to justify any such assertion

From the story:

"Logan opened the sliding door of the van but was shot before getting inside"

Get real. Do you think he was planning to *ask* her for permission to get into her van?

He was armed with a deadly weapon that he had just used to commit multiple forcible felonies. Now he was about to commit additional forcible felonies against a mindless blissninny that had neither the strategic not tactical common sense to protect herself.

She was probably yakking in her cellphone when the perp tried to carjack and kidnap her.

20 posted on 07/23/2004 8:27:20 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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