Truth is truth regardless of how perfect the messenger is. We have to fight this battle on all fronts. That means we must clean our own houses even as we fight to maintain community standards. Make no mistake, the church is lax because it has been TOO TOLERANT in the past. We have allowed the left to convince everyone that Christian values are anti-American. Nothing could be further from the truth. But past apathy has done a great deal of damage. We have given up our freedoms without a fight. Along the way, we have also given up our values. We have grown ashamed of them. We've become convinced that they belong hidden in the closet, private thoughts that cannot be aired in public without great shame and offense. At the same time, in our absence, those who behave in shocking ways and advocate perversions which used to be considered shameful have taken our place at the community table. And we have followed them in their ways, ceasing to be any kind of moral voice in the culture. Yes, we need to clean our own house. But that does not change the reality of right and wrong in the public square.
Right on! When enough church sermons go back to being tough and unapologetic for the truth of the Good Book, maybe the message will get through and the lite-weight Christians who get offended by non-PC morals can go sing hymns at the Unitarian Universalist (Our Lady of Anything Goes) Church.
Okay, so you save a homosexual from getting married, but now he hates you and everything you stand for. How do you plan to lead him to Christ now that you are his enemy? Where is the "Love your neighbor" in this? Look, I know it's hard- it's even in direct opposite from our own human natures- but we have to love those who hate us. We have to bless those who curse us. It makes no sense and yet we must do this for God, for the church of Christ is not a warrior cult, we do not do God's dirty work, we are not the judges or juries of creation. We are sinners. They are, too. But it is a SIN to allow our salvation to make us feel superior than another. It is a festering evil in the soul. It is called PRIDE and it happens whenever one person is given reason to feel superior to another. Stay in your homes. Go ahead and raise your children in a saccharine world where evil does not exist. Surround them with those who sing only of the praises of God. Then watch them live isolated lives, never even attempting to witness to others. Because here's the rub- if you don't know a person, you can't witness to him. You can't be apart from the world AND affect it in any way.
Homosexuality is wrong, but homosexuals are humans, and are covered by Christ's blood just the same as you, or I, or anyone else is. Ask yourself this: Is your religion that of the Pharisee or that of Jesus? The Pharisees were certainly opposed to sin, that much we know. But they were also consumed with their own piety, emboldened by their religious fervor to point out flaws in others' characters. I thought Jesus came to deliver us from that part of us.
The state has no business "licensing" an institution ordained by God...licenses came about during the days of slavery to keep the races from intermingling.
Yea, mom and grandma sound like real monsters.
(rolls eyes)
Homosexual Agenda Ping - Good argument going on. Take apart the opposition.
The main point is that sexual immorality is a continuum that goes from bad to worse. "Gay" marriage is worse. Although it can get to extreme worst, which it will unless the whole tsunami is checked and stopped.
let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.
Ping.
BUMP!
Regardless, you CANNOT divorce in this country, without a five year seperation.
There is a lot of criticism on these boards about how liberal Ireland is, but in terms of divorce and abortion we are just about as conservative as they come.
Not in my house, if my daughter (or son) disgraces our family like that.