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Carrier’s run-in with dhow raises red flags
THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT ^ | 7/31/2004 | MATTHEW DOLAN

Posted on 07/31/2004 5:10:20 AM PDT by csvset

Carrier’s run-in with dhow raises red flags

Officials seek answers after ship struck, sank small boat

BY MATTHEW DOLAN THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT

    How could a small boat designed for fishing in the Persian Gulf get so close to a multibilliondollar American carrier equipped with state-ofthe-art radar and armed with its own air force?

    That’s the question Navy investigators are still asking after the carrier John F. Kennedy struck and sank the mysterious boat in the Persian Gulf on July 22.

    No survivors or remains from the small boat, known as a dhow, have been recovered. The crew of the Mayport, Fla.-based carrier and its Virginia Beach-based air wing did not sustain any injuries from the collision, Navy officials said. No structural dam    age to the carrier was

reported.

But the little noticed accident, now under review by an admiral sent from the Pentagon, could raise serious questions about the Navy’s ability to protect its own ships. Small suicide boats have already attacked larger Navy ships or their crews in the region on at least two occasions in recent years.

In 2000, a bomb-laden skiff blew a 40-by-20-foot hole in the Norfolk-based Cole while the destroyer was refueling in Yemen. The explosion killed 17
sailors and injured 42 others.

In April, three crew members from the Virginia Beach-based Firebolt died after a dhow exploded near the coastal patrol boat’s boarding team in the Persian Gulf. Other reports indicate that terrorists have attempted to strike Navy ships close to shore or while transiting maritime chokepoints such as the Straits of Gibraltar.

But a spokesman for the Navy’s 5th Fleet in Bahrain said that it was too early to speculate on the cause of the accident, much less the intentions of the dhow.

“It’s a bit premature,” Cmdr. James Graybeal said by telephone Friday. “We need to let the investigation run its course.” Other Navy officials said that they did not worry in general whether ships such as aircraft carriers were able to protect themselves adequately.

“There is an ongoing investigation, but I don’t have any overall concerns about ship self-defense,” said Rear Adm. John D. Stufflebeem, assistant deputy chief of naval operations who previously led the Harry S. Truman carrier strike group.

But Paul K. Van Riper proved recently that the “4½ acres of American floating sovereignty,” as deployed aircraft carriers are sometimes called, are not completely impenetrable.

Van Riper, a retired Marine Corps lieutenant general, commanded an enemy force “Red Team” during the $250 million war game known as Millennium Challenge in 2002. He was able to sink an American carrier using a salvo of surface-to-surface missiles, but his overall naval strategy also employed swarming small boats.

“The Navy took that part seriously,” he said in an interview this week.

Traditionally, carriers post sailors standing watch 24 hours a day, seven days a week, Graybeal said. Flattops are also protected by an air wing packed with surveillance aircraft and usually ringed by an armada of destroyers, cruisers and other ships.

The Kennedy had only been in the gulf for 12 days when it struck the dhow at about 10:20 p.m. during night flight operations.

Evidently, someone on the Kennedy’s crew spotted the dhow. Graybeal would only say that “it’s my understanding that the ship was maneuvering to avoid contact with the dhow.” After the sinking, the mine countermeasures ship Dextrous joined the British multi-role hydrographic and oceanographic survey vessel Echo in an effort to locate any survivors.

Navy officials said they know little about the sunken dhow. They do not know the boat’s nationality or its purpose, Graybeal said.

Although the Navy has asked for any information about the boat in neighboring countries through its embassies, no one has come forward to say where the boat came from or whether it was manned at the time.

A debris field has been located, but Graybeal said he did not have details about what it contained.

In the gulf, dhows are often made with wood and sometimes outfitted with sails. They are used for fishing, trade and transportation. But it is not uncommon for dhows to be used as smuggler’s boats, which could be why no one has come forward so far.

Rear Adm. Evan M. Chanik, who works as director of the programming division for the chief of naval operations, flew from the United States to the region to lead the investigation and report back to 5th Fleet.

Chanik formerly commanded a carrier air wing and two warships, including the Norfolk-based carrier Enterprise. He remains aboard the Kennedy, Graybeal said Friday. There was no time line for the completion of his probe.

In the meantime, operations for the Kennedy, whose air wing has dropped bombs in support of American troops fighting in Iraq, continue without change.

“There is nothing to indicate that this was anything more than a maritime accident,” Graybeal said.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bigjohn; cv67; dhow; doh; jfk; usn; ussjohnfkennedy
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Things tht go bump in the night.
1 posted on 07/31/2004 5:10:21 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

A fishing boat couldnt see this floating city in front of it?


2 posted on 07/31/2004 5:14:00 AM PDT by cardinal4 (John Kerry-the stitching in the bunny suit of life..)
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To: cardinal4

That was my thought too. Especially during flight operations?

Of course, this thought coming from an Army guy.


3 posted on 07/31/2004 5:19:39 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: csvset

4 posted on 07/31/2004 5:21:07 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Go balloons. GO BALLOONS! Standby, confetti.)
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To: martin_fierro; csvset

How many in a typical crew? Could they all have been sleeping?


5 posted on 07/31/2004 5:27:12 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: csvset

Small wooden boat? I'm not surprised at all that it didn't show up on radar, and they don't typically post lookouts. Especially at night.


6 posted on 07/31/2004 5:28:49 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: csvset

Umm, stupid here, but what's a "dhow"?


7 posted on 07/31/2004 5:31:17 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: LS

Its a wooden boat that is common in Middle Eastern waters, and looks like the photo in post #4.


8 posted on 07/31/2004 5:32:51 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Riley

Thanks. I didn't go down that far because I didn't get what it was. I thought it was an abbreviation for a "double hull."


9 posted on 07/31/2004 5:36:26 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: leadpenny

There's around three thousand on the Kennedy. Many of those sailors never see daylight unless they make a point to. Night operations make it much more difficult to spot other surface craft especially something like a dhow which didn't show up on radar.

Keep in mind the other surface ships that were working with the Kennedy didn't see the dhow either. The takeoffs and landings probably contributed to the difficulty of spotting the wood boat.

FWIW, I was on a destroyer, 300' long, that "disappeared" under the overhang of the flight deck of the Kennedy during a refueling. The warrant officer who had the conn was one our best shiphandlers. Someone looking straight down from the edge of the flight deck could see us, but no one on the Kennedy's bridge could.


10 posted on 07/31/2004 5:44:40 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: csvset

The John F. Kennedy rams and sinks a small craft at night?


11 posted on 07/31/2004 5:44:51 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: csvset
Courts martial for the captain, probably for a few exec's, and probably for a few CPO's. Bust 'em all; but before doing that, replace them immediately.

The escort boat security details were fishing? Were fumbling through their tackle boxes? Given that they were there, weren't they?

A genuine situation FUBAR.

12 posted on 07/31/2004 5:46:06 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: csvset

Yet another Al Quieda practice run?


13 posted on 07/31/2004 5:47:54 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: leadpenny
Could they all have been sleeping?

Could be. I'd bet they don't have any sort of communication/signaling gear or lights for that matter.

I'd imagine that even if they did see it bearing down on them, they were ill equipped to do anything about it.

14 posted on 07/31/2004 5:47:55 AM PDT by csvset
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To: meatloaf

Thanks. I should have been more specific. I was wondering how many would have been aboard the wooden craft and could they have all been asleep? It just seems strange that they allowed themselves to drift into the JFK with all the activity on the big ship. Maybe no one was aboard and it was loaded with some kind of bomb that didn't go off?


15 posted on 07/31/2004 5:52:27 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: csvset

Maybe no wind? I'm sure the investigation will look at the existing weather.


16 posted on 07/31/2004 5:54:27 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: csvset

Obviously this was Bush's fault.


17 posted on 07/31/2004 5:57:37 AM PDT by gbaker
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To: meatloaf

The Kennedy collided with the Belknap in '76 during night air ops. Both ships were alert, had radar going, knew what was going on, and still collided. Running over a dhow would be nothing surprising.


18 posted on 07/31/2004 6:01:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Lets not overlook the fact that they were running night flight operations. The ship was probably making 30 knots and running into the wind with the escort vessels. For night flight ops, there would be no white lights showing: the ship would be entirely dark (except for some dim red lights).

In addition, they were probably operating in shallow waters so the OD was sweating not hitting the bottom.

Depending on the operation, the ship had probably gone as close to shore as they could to shorten the range to the target for the aircraft.

Small, dark, wooden ships do not show up on surface search radar (unless they have really been improved since I last looked at a PPI scope. The wooden boat was probably lost in the interference on the scope.

19 posted on 07/31/2004 6:02:23 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor shares his years of experience on a carrier.)
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To: csvset
Could they all have been sleeping? It is hard to see a small wooden boat at night, and the JFK was probably moving pretty fast through the water in support of flight ops.
20 posted on 07/31/2004 6:06:35 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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